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Too many of you keep thinking at this as if an O type is the head coach
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:25 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:25 am
O had to be entirely reliant on his coordinators, and had a history over the last few years of awful hires at the position.
The reason LSU kept so many coaches from the Miles era was because of the fact O was not expected to be good at hiring assistants.
Hell, he hired his best, Brady, because of E's recommendation. He hired his entire staff this past year basically on recommendations from other coaches and picked guys with no experience.
That is not Brian Kelly. He's a proven head coach that has made fantastic hires over the years. People stressed about him no bringing some coaches down with him is a bit naive.
Rees is a young kid that is not 6 years out of playing for Kelly. They may like to claim he has autonomy, but even the ND diehards were saying that Kelly let his coordinators play free in 2016, which led to their awful season. He then took back control of the reigns and they've been top 10 every year basically.
Elston may be getting a promotion, so I am not sure what you expect him to do. It's his shot, and he will likely take it.
Just stop being so damn impatient.
The reason LSU kept so many coaches from the Miles era was because of the fact O was not expected to be good at hiring assistants.
Hell, he hired his best, Brady, because of E's recommendation. He hired his entire staff this past year basically on recommendations from other coaches and picked guys with no experience.
That is not Brian Kelly. He's a proven head coach that has made fantastic hires over the years. People stressed about him no bringing some coaches down with him is a bit naive.
Rees is a young kid that is not 6 years out of playing for Kelly. They may like to claim he has autonomy, but even the ND diehards were saying that Kelly let his coordinators play free in 2016, which led to their awful season. He then took back control of the reigns and they've been top 10 every year basically.
Elston may be getting a promotion, so I am not sure what you expect him to do. It's his shot, and he will likely take it.
Just stop being so damn impatient.
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:29 am to Geauxgurt
Agree. People putting too much stock in his staff not coming with him. They have a game left, with an outside shot at a NC. I’m sure they are thinking their value will increase with wins. Also, it’s not enough money to turn their heads if they have been happy there.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:31 am to Geauxgurt
With the way BK runs an organization, he's more like Saban than O.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:34 am to 4evrlsu
Im not sure i see all of the complaining about it that yall see
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:35 am to josh336
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Im not sure i see all of the complaining about it that yall see
It is mainly the people getting deflated to an extreme on some of his ND staff not coming. They are going a bit overboard in some cases.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:45 am to Geauxgurt
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Too many of you keep thinking at this as if an O type is the head coach
We have been conditioned to fear coordinator hires over a long period of time: Lou Tepper. Gary Crowton. The Malveto Experiment.
But yes, this is an opportunity for personal growth for many of us.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:53 am to Geauxgurt
It's completely different from O and we really don't need to lose our minds over the position coaches.
Kelly has been a head coach every single year since 1991 at 4 other programs, and he has has won almost 300 games.
I'm sure, at some point in that time span, assistants have moved on and been replaced.
We are about to experience how a grown arse man runs a football program.
Kelly has been a head coach every single year since 1991 at 4 other programs, and he has has won almost 300 games.
I'm sure, at some point in that time span, assistants have moved on and been replaced.
We are about to experience how a grown arse man runs a football program.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:18 am to Geauxgurt
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It is mainly the people getting deflated to an extreme on some of his ND staff not coming. They are going a bit overboard in some cases.
Exactly. This and thinking he needs to rush hires for recruiting. We've just got the Orgeron (and to a lesser extent Miles) model totally ingrained in us where the success of the team and recruiting is totally dependent on the coordinator and position coach hires.
Great OP, BTW
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:26 am to whitefoot
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This and thinking he needs to rush hires for recruiting.
i mentioned this in another thread. how many kids are committed to LSU or seriously considering LSU are ESD guys? and early enrolling guys? I can't imagine it is a significant enough number to rush into a hire over.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:26 am to Geauxgurt
The coordinator hires are going to be beyond solid. People need to chill. Have ye forgotten SW just pulled NDs HC ?
Look around people, LSU in control of it's destiny and we are dangerous in that position.
Look around people, LSU in control of it's destiny and we are dangerous in that position.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:36 am to Screaming Viking
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how many kids are committed to LSU or seriously considering LSU are ESD guys?
I would think we'll try to get all of the current commits to sign early. Most are from Louisiana, though.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 9:42 am to Geauxgurt
Realizing that CBK has more respect and generally is a better communicator doesn’t change the talent pool of potential assistants. The reasons the risks of hiring ALL new (leave alone the ability of a coach to mold assistants) are relatively the same and varied but obvious. Some assistants will be happy where they are, some have contractural restrictions (if the school is smart), and some have benefited by good fortune from others and circumstances. A great coach will sort it anyway, but it may not be fast, and there will be some inefficiencies. Bottom line…buckle up for season one.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:39 am to Geauxgurt
People are understandably gun-shy given O’s method of hiring, and even more now that no one from Kelly’s staff wants to come with him. It’s an eyebrow raiser. This is where Kelly can show he’s different than O. There will be a melt if he retains most of the staff 
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:49 am to The Pirate King
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It’s an eyebrow raiser.
Not for anyone paying the slightest modicum of attention.
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There will be a melt if he retains most of the staff
Just because you wish it to be, doesn't make it so. There will be some melty people if Peetz gets retained and that's it.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:51 am to Chadwick
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With the way BK runs an organization, he's more like Saban than O.
"omg we basically hired Saban right guys?"
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:57 am to Geauxgurt
Yep you have to give Kelly some leash and let him do his thing. He’s got the track record we should trust. Many people suspected Coach O was in over his head from the beginning and overly dependent on assistants, therefore questioned everything. This is not the same situation.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:02 am to Porcine Human
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"omg we basically hired Saban right guys?"
Maybe not, but at least we're not Arkansas fans.
When was the last time y'all won a NC? The 70s? Yeah but keep talking shite. It's obvious you're either scared or jealous.
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:03 am to Geauxgurt
Every HC is a CEO first and foremost. recruiting, roster management, hiring of assistant coaches, and establishing and maintaining culture will always be much more integral to success than and X and O from the head coach spot. There is plenty of assistants and analysts to work on the X and O.
This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:04 am to Porcine Human
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"omg we basically hired Saban right guys?"
Did he say this, you stupid frick?
Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:06 am to Burreaux09
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Did he say this, you stupid frick?
There was no reason to make the comparison to Saban
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