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re: The more I think about Aranda

Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:57 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 9:57 am to
My biggest concern with Aranda is that Smith and Roy walk because they don’t want to eat blocks in his defense.


You gotta break some eggs to make an omelet but he almost exclusively relies on blitzes and BOLB to get pressure consistently
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32368 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:01 am to
If LSU passes on Aranda, it won't be long before they regret it when another big SEC school scoops him up and locks him down for years.

Yeah, he's not the flashy hire but the guy is virtually drama free, highly cerebral, has a detail oriented approach comparable to Saban (but seems to be far less resistant to change and adaptation than N$), has an absolutely brilliant defensive mind (which I truly believe a long term HC should have), develops his players into monsters, and just automatically receives respect from his coworkers. You can't find anyone who offers anything but praise for Dave.

He's not Petersen or Riley or Meyer or Rhule, but I think he's hands down the best choice in the long run. Look how his 2019 defense took care of several teams whose coaches get drooled over when mentioned in this search...

Aranda is the guy.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8506 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:05 am to
Could not agree more with every word of that post.
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27558 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:10 am to
quote:

the current LSU culture/model or not.

What is that?
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21563 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:22 am to
If Aranda will commit to wearing a visor, I'm in. Tough ask for a chrome dome, but he needs to get the swagger up for croots.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
4572 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:25 am to
Absolutely. He and Ensminger.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
18632 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:27 am to
I fluctuate among Aranda, Tucker, and Napier. I would not mind Riley.

Aranda again is number one with me right now because of the “lock down one side of the ball” motif. His defenses are great. Just because a head coach has been a coordinator does not mean one side of the ball is assured the way Aranda could lock down the defense.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68737 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:31 am to
I would be thrilled with Aranda
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 10:39 am to
He's the anti-Ed, exactly what the program needs.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37988 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:25 am to
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Are you joking?

You don't think Aranda will bring new ideas to a program run by a sub-85 IQ coach? Who has had 2 years to build the D in his own image, aka, destroying everything Aranda did?


People forget what an amazing job Aranda did with the 2017 and 2018 defenses, which likely saved O's job. I forget what year it was, but one of those years we effectively had 4 D-lineman who could contribute.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39364 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:49 am to
quote:

You don't think Aranda will bring new ideas to a program run by a sub-85 IQ coach? Who has had 2 years to build the D in his own image, aka, destroying everything Aranda did?


It’s not just on-field things I’m talking about. Aranda would not come in and change much about the structure or processes of the program.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39364 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:56 am to
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Rmnldr, why do you say that? Is it a case of striking out on the big fish/ not wanting to wait til after playoffs and Aranda’s the highest tier 2 candidate, or do you feel Scott saw Aranda up close and thinks he’s the reason we won in 2019?


Aranda and Napier have always been up Scott’s sleeve since last year. They put bait in the water and saw what they could get and talked with a lot of candidates through their agents and have settled down on just a handful.

Scott has seen Aranda and Napier up close. He’s a big fan of both of them.



And, O had legitimate complaints about Aranda’s play calling but O’s stupidity was about underestimating Aranda’s effective teaching, his system, and the simplicity of it to where anyone could come in and learn it.

Aranda knew what his defense’s weaknesses were each year and played to mask them and did so. The 2019 offense did that defense no favors.

So to sum it up, yeah, Aranda and Ensminger held LSU together f
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39364 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:03 pm to
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What is that?


What Nick Saban implemented and what every coach since has done to diminish it in their own ways since.

Les created the NFLSU 3&out culture which gutted the program of talent and his offensive schemes were so stubborn that it got him fired

Orgeron took his hands off the wheel and when he had to drive he showed that he never knew how to in the first place. The culture, organization, and structure of the program are in shambles right now.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
28712 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:03 pm to
Dave Aranda as HC
Tom Herman as OC
We'd be a perennial playoff contender by year 2.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4163 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

we should be hiring proven recruiters and winners.

Like Saban in 2000? You're telling me you knew Saban would turn into the GOAT?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164609 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:14 pm to
Remember the ucf bowl game where we had receivers (Netherley and Kirklin) playing in the secondary
Posted by TigerInHaiti
Member since Oct 2018
29 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:17 pm to
Aranda
Ron Roberts as DC (former Southeastern HC and longtime coach with Aranda going back to Delta State)
Grimes or Herman as OC (longtime friend and college roommate) Grimes could very well stay and maybe get the Baylor job.
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
Member since Jun 2008
11410 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:43 pm to
Im riding for Aranda at this point.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31435 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:59 pm to
He needs to finish the year strong. 10-2 is easily within reach and might put him over the top for the LSU job.
Posted by bigmike1986
Member since Oct 2018
4 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:04 pm to
I don’t think LSU is in the business of taking risks right now , it’ll be a proven head coach , a proven winner . A big name . Not Aranda. Doug Pederson was in Shreveport yesterday but unfortunately he said he’s not interested in the LSU job.
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