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re: Texas hires Bo Davis
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:24 pm to Vito Andolini
Posted on 1/22/21 at 6:24 pm to Vito Andolini
You didn’t read the rest of the article...did you?
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:47 pm to Vito Andolini
“ It was only a few days after Saban's mid-January meeting with Freeze that he learned he couldn't make the hire. Sankey informed both Freeze and Alabama that it would look bad for the SEC for Freeze to be back coaching in the league while Ole Miss suffered from NCAA penalties incurred under his watch. The SEC preferred that Freeze, who resigned in July following a "pattern of personal misconduct," go off the radar for at least a little while before trying to return to work at one of its schools.”
What were you saying about how well you read?
What were you saying about how well you read?
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:52 pm to MONROE
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The SEC preferred that Freeze,
Vito has a point
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:53 pm to Vito Andolini
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Link or you are full of sh*t
SEC blocks Hugh Freeze hire
Please stop being the only one that doesn’t know about this.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:29 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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You didn’t read the rest of the article...did you?
I sure did, did you?
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While it seems implausible a coach as influential and successful as Saban couldn't get what he wanted, a nearly year-old SEC bylaw gives the league's commissioner additional oversight into schools' hiring practices. According to bylaw 19.8.1.2, a school must consult directly with Sankey before offering a job to a coach "who has engaged in unethical conduct as defined under NCAA Bylaws or who has participated in activity that resulted, or may result, in a Level I, Level II or major infraction."
That's relevant because Ole Miss received a two-year bowl ban, scholarship reductions through 2018-19 and had to vacate wins after the program was deemed to have "fostered an unconstrained culture of booster involvement in football recruiting," according to the NCAA Committee on Infractions. The committee, though, seemingly viewed it as more an institutional than Freeze issue at Ole Miss. While multiple Ole Miss assistants and staffers received multi-year show-cause penalties, Freeze was hit with only a two-game conference suspension should any school hire him as a head coach before Nov. 30.
Roger I. Abrams, the Richardson Professor of Law at Northeastern University, says the SEC bylaw doesn't legally prevent a school from hiring someone like Freeze -- a school could have its president make a case to Sankey on why it wants to hire him -- but "it's exactly what the SEC wanted to happen.
LINK
“Consult, preferred, encouraged,” these are the powers of the SEC, notice there is no mention of “deny” or “veto” when you see the power of the SEC in this area.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:34 pm to MONROE
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Please stop being the only one that doesn’t know about this.
Sorry, Sport, but you don’t “know” about “this” either, since “this” isn’t what you think “this” really is.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:34 pm to Vito Andolini
I guess we are going to harp on the semantics and not realize Alabama tried to hire Freeze in 2017 and were told “don’t do that”. And LSU tried to hire Davis and were told the same. 
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:38 pm to CapstoneGrad06
This guy is the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen on this site and thats saying a lot. He has been given multiple links to articles about the subject but still is clueless.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:40 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I guess we are going to harp on the semantics and not realize Alabama tried to hire Freeze in 2017 and were told “don’t do that”. And LSU tried to hire Davis and were told the same
It is not semantics, someone posted that the SEC blocked a hire, and I correctly pointed out that the SEC has no such power, at most it simply can “encourage” a school to look elsewhere, and apparently Bama acquiesced to the SEC’s request regarding Freeze, but it did not veto it.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:41 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Vito has a point
No he doesn’t
“ Greg Sankey, said the move would look bad for the SEC and blocked the hire using a bylaw which states that the hiring of a coach associated with an NCAA investigation spurred by unethical conduct requires the consultancy of the league commissioner.
Sankey BLOCKED the hire. All he had to do was read a 2 minute article.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:42 pm to Vito Andolini
You still haven’t read the article, but you keep rambling on
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:45 pm to MONROE
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This guy is the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen on this site and thats saying a lot. He has been given multiple links to articles about the subject but still is clueless.
I can see reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, Sport. I have stated my point in as simplest of terms as I know how to, but I am afraid I can only explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:53 pm to MONROE
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You still haven’t read the article, but you keep rambling on
Yes, I read the link to the Ole Miss school paper article.
Now why don’t you try reading the actual SEC bylaw in question:
quote:
19.8.1.2 Hiring Practices. Member institutions shall exercise best efforts to hire individuals committed to rules compliance. In connection with this requirement, member institutions shall thoroughly evaluate an individual’s record of rules compliance prior to offering employment for any coaching position or noncoaching position with sport-specific responsibilities. While each member institution makes its own hiring decisions, member institutions shall, at a minimum, request specific information from each candidate concerning his/her rules compliance record and communicate with NCAA enforcement and the Conference office regarding the same prior to offering employment to any candidate.
In addition, where a member institution considers hiring an individual who has engaged in unethical conduct as defined under NCAA Bylaws or who has participated in activity that resulted, or may result, in a Level I, Level II or major infraction, the President or Chancellor of that member institution is expected to consult directly with the Commissioner prior to offering employment to the individual.
Each member institution must include in each contract with every athletic director, coach, senior woman administrator, and other employee of its athletic department a specific provision obligating the employee to comply with the Rules and specifying that the employee agrees to be bound by and will comply with the enforcement, penalty, and other disciplinary provisions and procedures of the NCAA and of the Conference, including but not limited to the provisions of Article 4 of the Constitution and of this Bylaw 19.8.
LINK
Now please leave this thread, the grownups are talking.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:09 pm to Vito Andolini
SEMANTICS
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:23 pm to CatfishJohn
Since when does the SEC have to sign off on our coaching hires? Screw them.
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:32 pm to geauxpurple
If the rules are public (transparent) and All School have to follow them , Then cool.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 12:21 am to Vito Andolini
To not only double, but triple down on your stupidity is not a good look. 
Posted on 1/23/21 at 1:00 am to Vito Andolini
So, if they can only encourage a school not to hire a coach, why don't the schools just hire them anyway?
Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:01 am to Chalkywhite84
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So, if they can only encourage a school not to hire a coach, why don't the schools just hire them anyway?
if ala-fricking-bama felt they couldn't hire a coach, then that should say something
Posted on 1/23/21 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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if ala-fricking-bama felt they couldn't hire a coach, then that should say something
Bama could have hired Freeze, they made the choice not to, that is the whole point.
"Consult with" does not equal "shall obtain approval prior to..." If the SEC wanted the latter, they could have used that language, however, they made the conscious decision to use the word "consult" for a reason.
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