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re: Some interesting news about Riley and the LSU coaching search from source.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:20 am to 45RCRoy45
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:20 am to 45RCRoy45
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why in the world would LR jump that ship for an unknown?
The SEC talent pool is an obvious advantage when you want to win National Championships.
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:23 am to 45RCRoy45
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OU is well known to have the best AD in the business... why in the world would LR jump that ship for an unknown?
I tried to tell these dudes that it's not happening. Not even a 1% chance. They won't listen. Joe Castiglione (better AD than Woodward) isn't going to let Lincoln leave OU unless he's unhappy with Lincoln's performance. Spoiler: he isn't unhappy.
This is Bob Stoops all over again. Bob to Florida. Bob to the Dallas Cowboys. Bob to Notre Dame. You get the drill.
Lincoln will get a hefty raise at OU and that'll be that.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:26 am to BuddyBuckets1
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Lincoln will get a hefty raise at OU and that'll be that.
You’re gonna pay a guy more money to continually get blown out when he faces any real competition?
No wonder your conference is such a joke.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:53 am to Epaminondas
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So, Riley has to accept this offer soon even though his team may be in the playoffs?
Doubtful.
Deals like this can be accepted privately, and not publicly released until an appropriate time.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:56 am to J2thaROC
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You’re gonna pay a guy more money to continually get blown out when he faces any real competition?
No wonder your conference is such a joke.
Silly response but I'm bored enough to respond, I guess.
Lincoln Riley has lost 8 games as the HC at Oklahoma.
2017
31-38 Iowa State
48-54 Georgia (playoffs)
2018
45-48 Texas
34-45 Alabama (playoffs)
2019
41-48 Kansas State
28-63 LSU (playoffs)
2020
35-38 Kansas State
30-37 Iowa State
The only real blowout on that list is LSU and they had a historically good team (Thanks Burrow, Brady, Chase, etc). LSU was too talented on offense for a first year DC and some mediocre defensive leftovers. It is what it is.
Anyway, none of that matters really. Yes, OU will offer Riley a raise if necessary. You don't let the best playcaller in CFB just walk out the door. You match ANY offer.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:59 am to abellsujr
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don’t think so.
I’m not saying who I think it is because the board gets mad.
Nah, speculation is fun.
Who ya got?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:05 am to Magician2
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Dabo is a CEO coach like O. He offers nothing on the OC or DC side of the ball.
Dabo has 2 wins over Saban.
O has 1
Lincoln has 0
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:06 am to abellsujr
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I’m not saying who I think it is because the board gets mad
Jimbo, right?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:12 am to BuddyBuckets1
Most of those you listed, tge pokes you scored were garbage time points after the games were way out of hand.
I’m sorry you can’t come to terms with the fact that Oklahoma can’t compete with the SEC (a fact which will become all the more evident once they join).
Those years Oklahoma made the playoffs, they might wouldhave been the 3rd or 4th place team in the SEC at best.
There is a reason the SEC has the most NFL players by far.
I’m sorry you can’t come to terms with the fact that Oklahoma can’t compete with the SEC (a fact which will become all the more evident once they join).
Those years Oklahoma made the playoffs, they might wouldhave been the 3rd or 4th place team in the SEC at best.
There is a reason the SEC has the most NFL players by far.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:29 am to BuddyBuckets1
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The only real blowout on that list is LSU and they had a historically good team (Thanks Burrow, Brady, Chase, etc)
Justin Jefferson, Marshall, Chase, Clyde, cush, Stingley, Fulton, Lawrence, Queen, Divinty, Shelvin
All home grown in Louisiana and i am probably missing a few. Now I dont know if Lincoln will come, but he has to have seen that blowout in 2019 and how many of those guys are from LA with barely any recruiting competition and though what he could do with that talent on both sides of the ball.
Maybe OU can pull that talent when they get to the SEC but it will be a lot easier to do it at LSU, especially if he gets 10-12 million a year
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:31 am to BayouCowboy
So, in my opinion, I really think woody constructed a list of playoff contenders. And I think he went After all of them.
Everyone wants to say that J Johnson came out of nowhere, but J Johnson has been to Omaha a couple of times. So I really think that’s where his list started.
I think before he got to the point of going after the “what could they be” guys, I think that he went to playoff guys first.
So let’s look at that:
Dabo
Saban (didn’t go after him obviously)
Riley
Kelly
Meyer (didn’t go after him obviously)
Smart (obviously not happening)
Petersen
Day
I think the guy on this list nobody is talking about is Kelly. I think knowing woodys record, he made Dabo, Riley, Day, Petersen, and Kelly say no before he went to the next step. So beyond these guys, I don’t know, but if we’re throwing big money, my bet is on Kelly having the best chance out of all of those to say yes. Not saying I think that’s the guy, I’m just saying that has woody written all over it.
Just to clarify, I mean Brian Kelly
Everyone wants to say that J Johnson came out of nowhere, but J Johnson has been to Omaha a couple of times. So I really think that’s where his list started.
I think before he got to the point of going after the “what could they be” guys, I think that he went to playoff guys first.
So let’s look at that:
Dabo
Saban (didn’t go after him obviously)
Riley
Kelly
Meyer (didn’t go after him obviously)
Smart (obviously not happening)
Petersen
Day
I think the guy on this list nobody is talking about is Kelly. I think knowing woodys record, he made Dabo, Riley, Day, Petersen, and Kelly say no before he went to the next step. So beyond these guys, I don’t know, but if we’re throwing big money, my bet is on Kelly having the best chance out of all of those to say yes. Not saying I think that’s the guy, I’m just saying that has woody written all over it.
Just to clarify, I mean Brian Kelly
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:55 am to BuddyBuckets1
Seriously what makes people say OU ( why is it OU when it’s actually University of Oklahoma????) has the best AD in the American states?
What’s his story?
What’s his story?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:59 am to Rosenblatt
Joe Castiglione is the most wrll respected AD in the country among his peers and administrators. He's a great fundraiser, doesn't ruffle any feathers and is a very talented guy.
He was doing terrific things at Mizzou before he went to OU.
He was doing terrific things at Mizzou before he went to OU.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:00 am to BuddyBuckets1
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I tried to tell these dudes that it's not happening. Not even a 1% chance. They won't listen. Joe Castiglione (better AD than Woodward) isn't going to let Lincoln leave OU unless he's unhappy with Lincoln's performance. Spoiler: he isn't unhappy.
This is Bob Stoops all over again. Bob to Florida. Bob to the Dallas Cowboys. Bob to Notre Dame. You get the drill.
Lincoln will get a hefty raise at OU and that'll be that.
I get that, and this is the highly likely outcome, but there is another angle here. And you're not going to agree with it because you're an OU fan, I get that, but the fact is when you guys join the SEC you will be relegated to being the team with the 6th at best, maybe 7th, resources and you will not be competing for playoff bids as often. If Lincoln is thinking rationally and has aspirations of being at a place without those limitations, he will listen to LSU.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:03 am to abellsujr
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I think the guy on this list nobody is talking about is Kelly. I think knowing woodys record, he made Dabo, Riley, Day, Petersen, and Kelly say no before he went to the next step. So beyond these guys, I don’t know, but if we’re throwing big money, my bet is on Kelly having the best chance out of all of those to say yes. Not saying I think that’s the guy, I’m just saying that has woody written all over it.
And he gave the Howard family his blessing to go to ND to check out LSU's new coach.
Diabolical.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:07 am to BayouCowboy
I’m not a conspiracy theory guy, but a lot of pieces going on rn.
Honestly though, you can’t hire a coach because of one player. But there are a lot of factors going on. Not considering Howard at all, Woody going after Kelly makes sense to me. I’m not saying it’s the right call, I’m just saying I think some things make sense with it.
Personally I want a young new offensive guy, but I’m not melting over Kelly.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:12 am to abellsujr
This OU poster is schooling this board with things they hate. Facts and reality.
People need to take the purple and gold glasses off.
We will end up with a tier 2 coach not some white whale.
Woodward isn't the hero we all thing.
Jay Johnson sounds great in the few clips and his recruiting but we haven't seen jack shite on the field and 99% of our fan base has coined him a home run hire. We have a very delusional fan base
People need to take the purple and gold glasses off.
We will end up with a tier 2 coach not some white whale.
Woodward isn't the hero we all thing.
Jay Johnson sounds great in the few clips and his recruiting but we haven't seen jack shite on the field and 99% of our fan base has coined him a home run hire. We have a very delusional fan base
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:13 am to Magician2
We could very easily end up with a tier 2 coach. But I definitely think Woodward would have had all of those guys say no first.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:14 am to Tigerbait1977
The fact that Riley's name is leaking out tells me its not Riley.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 11:19 am to Magician2
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This OU poster is schooling this board with things they hate. Facts and reality.
People need to take the purple and gold glasses off.
We will end up with a tier 2 coach not some white whale.
Woodward isn't the hero we all thing.
Jay Johnson sounds great in the few clips and his recruiting but we haven't seen jack shite on the field and 99% of our fan base has coined him a home run hire. We have a very delusional fan base
These are all very sounds points. I think Billy Napier is more likely to be the coach. But underpinning that logic is that people, including Riley probably, typically don't completely think things through when making big decisions. It's the intangible stuff that normally drives these situations. If Riley is thinking rationally, he would very much consider coming to LSU. Once OU is in the SEC, he has virtually no shot at winning a national title. OU turns into an 8=4/9-3 type program and they lose the one appeal to them from a recruiting standpoint, which is their national brand. 8-4/9-3 and 4th or so in the SEC pecking order is going to dry up their pipelines in CA and FL.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 11:21 am
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