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re: Schiano should take legal action

Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:55 am to
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33935 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:55 am to
At worst, Tennessee owes a bunch of money to a guy who will never have coached there. At best, this incident totally derails their hiring process. Who the frick would want to coach Tennessee after this?
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
980 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:14 am to
Quit arguing. He’s taking legal action for breach of contract.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:15 am to
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Tenn because they backed out of a signed contract


They had no signed contract. Stop making shite up.
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
980 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:17 am to
No one is making shite up. Read the news, and you will see that his team has already begun to seek compensation for breach of contract.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25286 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:19 am to
Can someone tell me who Sandusky, Schiano and all the other coaches and staff members ultimately reported to? Somebody has to be responsible for representing Penn State when all the crimes and coverups where committed. Who the hell turned their head the other way?

The Fish Stinks from the Head.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98286 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:22 am to
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knowing what we know now


Which is nothing.

So, what is your point?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31873 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:44 am to
The MOU has more to do with firmly establishing rates of pay, incentives, etc. It doesn’t have the full complement of binding language and such.
Posted by saltydawg
corn country
Member since Sep 2011
1937 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:51 am to
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They had no signed contract.


Even if this MOU isn't "binding," doesn't an oral contract count? If Tennessee offered him $5 mil a year for X years and he accepted, isn't that a contract?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:05 am to
Ya

The article I linked on the bottom of the last page does a good job of listing the angles GS would pursue against UT.

He also lists ways UT can potentially get out of it
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:05 am to
Who knows what's true. What I do know is that he was at the wrong school at the wrong time. To think he could jump in to the limelight in a conservative state like Tennessee - That was an oversight by both he and the AD.

Right now, that dude needs to forget about lawsuits and get on the media outlets to try to forever end the speculation.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:17 am to
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He will never get a head coaching job because of this. No school would ever want to consider him now, because of the backlash that may occur.


That would be a really risky move on his part. The only win would be a long, drawn out process that ended in a positive verdict. However, he would also open himself up to cross examination at depositions and a trial under oath and also the discovery process. That would be used by the defense to smear him, no matter what the truth really is.

His better bet is to try to win the battle of public opinion from behind the scenes and hope that changes perception. That doesn’t require testifying under oath and giving attorneys access to every shred of your life.

ETA: I am referring to any kind of defamation action. A contract dispute proceeding wouldn’t include all of that.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 7:22 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22209 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:50 am to
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He will never get a head coaching job because of this. No school would ever want to consider him now, because of the backlash that may occur.

Why is this a bad thing for the integrity of the game?
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:01 am to
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doesn't an oral contract count


Only in some states.

Tenn. last MOU for basketball coach contained and out. $1,000,000 I've read. If Schiano is smart he'd take whatever they offer. If he sues he may have to finally give a sworn statement on what he saw. And we know he's lying about that.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:06 am to
McQueary "Testified" Bradley told him that coach Schiano witnessed child abuse

Fixed it for ya.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29853 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:01 am to
Unless an agreement was signed, it could be difficult to win in court.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:08 am to
Against who?

TEnn for violating a contract. sure

But otherwise maybe Travis or McQuery? That would involve discovery.

IF the guy is truly innocent maybe he should do that.

But here is another question. What does it say if he does no take legal action?
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8053 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:12 am to
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McQueary "Testified" Bradley told him that coach Schiano witnessed child abuse

Not in open court. Out of all the hundreds or thousands of documents, Schiano only came up once. McQueary didn't recall the episode clearly -- I mean, read the actual excerpt about it -- and both Bradley and Schiano denied it.

If true, Schiano is a POS and I hope he never works again. Based on what we know and the amount of vetting he's gotten already (Tampa, Ohio State, etc) it seems like there isn't even smoke.

Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9369 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:21 am to
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To think he could jump in to the limelight in a conservative state like Tennessee - That was an oversight by both he and the AD.


While I agree with the premise (Conservatives are way less tolerable of crimes like child rape), I think they perhaps assumed that the conservative crowd would lean into the "innocent until proven guilty" stance. The staggering lack of anything substantial in this situation would make it a slam dunk for any AD who would want him IMO: over 400 people were interviewed regarding the scandal, but Schiano was not. That is how insignificant he was. One single person recounted another person's account from 30 years ago about one tiny little situation. How well do you remember seeing one person for one fleeting moment 30 years ago?

It's absolutely pathetic and disgusting that people have reacted this way and ruined a man's life over something that is, in all likelihood, completely false. Riot if you think he's a bad coach, but don't riot because of some stupid allegation that cannot even come close to being proved.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:40 am to
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It's absolutely pathetic and disgusting that people have reacted this way and ruined a man's life over something that is, in all likelihood, completely false. Riot if you think he's a bad coach, but don't riot because of some stupid allegation that cannot even come close to being proved.


good post

i hope more people see it and maybe start accepting the factt that the mob mentality they originally believed is wrong
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:41 am
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2049 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:42 am to
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He will never get a head coaching job because of this. No school would ever want to consider him now, because of the backlash that may occur.


Go for it. Sue UT. Then UT gets to ask him questions on the record about what happened at Peddo State.
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