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re: Random LSU Hero is right IMO...all about fit.

Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

What will cause him to all of a sudden dominate the SEC.


he's a coonass! He talks like us! He loves LSU!!
Posted by saint amant steve
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 pm to
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With the talent in Louisiana that is abundance I think O will thrive here.


First off...is that English?

Secondly, Miles has proven that talent alone doesn't result in titles. Some of you can't seem to grasp the fact that there is a certain amount of strategy and scheme required to be a top-level program.

We're not going to simply "out-talent" Ohio State, Alabama, or Florida State. Hell, we couldn't even do it against Wisconsin and their roster dominated by three-stars.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:38 pm to
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He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss


Why because he said so?


Oh okay then . Lets stake LSU football programs future on that line then.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3952 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:56 pm to
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quote: He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss

Why because he said so? Oh okay then . Lets stake LSU football programs future on that line then.


Yes, because he said so. He clearly laid out on radio what mistakes he made at Ole Miss, what he learned from them, and how he changed what he did when he got the opportunity at USC and now, LSU.

So far Coach O has done everything right. Let's see if that continues. If it does, he deserves serious consideration. It still might not make him the number one choice, but he would be high on the list.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:01 pm to
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Rich Rod
Gus Malzahn
Dana Holgerson
Mark Helfrich
Kevin Sumlin
Chad Morris
Brian Kelley

None has had sustain success at a P5 school.

Rich Rod: Back when it was P6, Rich Rod was a damned good coach for West Virginia in the (then) Big East.

Gus Malzahn: Went to a national championship game. You'd take that, given the chance.

Kevin Sumlin: Has A&M winning at a more regular clip than usual, against tougher competition than A&M has faced in the past.

Brian Kelly: Doesn't even coach at a P5 school, if we're being technical.

The right 'fit' matters, no matter what program / coaching style you're discussing. I think Tom Herman would be a great fit at LSU. I also think Jimbo Fisher would be a great fit.

Chip Kelly, on the other hand, would be a 'bad' fit, but he'd come in with some much credibility that nobody would care that he's ornery and unpleasant, because he'd guarantee LSU huge offensive production, insane offensive recruiting and 10+ wins a season.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:09 pm to
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Brian Kelley


Has certainly had sustained success. Especially given the constraints placed on ND recruiting.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3611 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:12 pm to
Who knows where it will end up but I'd take Orgeron with Malzhan as OC once Auburn fires him. Keep Aranda and LSU is a juggernaut.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:14 pm to
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I think LSU is one of those jobs where O would be a good fit whereas he may not be as good of a fit in other gigs.


Exactly, Saban didn't fit in Louisiana, he thought Cajun people were too dumb.

Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:20 pm to
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he's a coonass! He talks like us! He loves LSU!!


Stop with the sarcasm, most LSU fans are willing to wait and see how the season plays out, others are demanding that someone other than the CEO gets the gig.
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
865 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:18 am to
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Dabo didn't have a lot of success until he hired Chad Morris who runs a pass happy version of Malzahns system. Tahj Boyd and Deshaun Watson had a lot to do with his success. Kudos to him for recruiting them.


It is too early to tell if Coach O will run the table and earn his shot, but the statement above is exactly why Coach O might be a good fit- he could be our Debo.

Coach O has said if he doesn't win enough games he doesn't deserve the job, so we'll see. I want to keep our defensive intensity/skill/ability so I can see why it would make sense to hire O, keep Aranda and bring in an offensive coordinator. But I can also see why you'd want to bring in Fisher who has a track record of developing QBs (can you imagine how Myles Brennan would develop under Fisher?)

So for me it's a toss up- which is less risky? Can Coach O keep our defensive staff and bring in a quality offensive coordinator to improve our offense, or can Jimbo develop our QBs and improve the offense and bring in/keep our defensive abilities?

I guess we have to trust Alleva to determine that (and that doesn't make me feel too comfortable, either...)
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9875 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:32 am to
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Jimbos mediocre arse

One of 4 coaches to win a natty this decade.
Brought FSU back from mediocrity.
3 first round QBs recruited and developed.

sounds pretty mediocre compared to Coach O's....losing head coaching record?
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:33 am to
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Chad Morris


is still a hot coach, dont know why he went to SMU but he's doubled their win total from previous year and matched that win total in 5 games this year.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:37 am to
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He's been very good while under an excellent recruiting head coach like miles and Pete Carroll.

His recruiting classes at ole miss ranked like this...

2005 - 30
2006 - 17
2007 - 28

Compared to hugh freeze..

2013 - 7
2014 - 17
2015 - 20

Must not be that great.

And all the other Crap you posted is your opinion based on zero facts.




ouch... truth hurts sometimes...

Lets back Coach O for the rest of the season and thank him for his service, then put him right back on the DL and recruiting coordinator job with a good raise right when we hire our new coach..

He could win the national title this year. (And he just might) and he still should not get the job..

I swear we have so many emotional decision makers on this board its crazy.. like damn women..
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:54 am to
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I swear we have so many emotional decision makers on this board its crazy.. like damn women..


They may try to convince themselves there are legit reasons he would be a good coach, but ultimately, it comes down to how he makes them 'feel'.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57550 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:35 am to
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I think O has the potential to be to LSU what Dabo Swinney is to Clemson.


What would you guess is the difference in IQ between those two? Thirty points?
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4870 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:50 am to
I absolutely love coach O and am pulling for him. But I just don't get the knee jerk reaction by some of the people on this board relative to making him permanent. It's about attitude with the team...they ALL wanted a new start. Hal Hunter SMOKED a highly ranked Arkansas team in '99 after Dinardo was fired. New team...new coach...new start. People were calling for him as head coach then as well. It's the same shite now...a fresh start. How many wanted Orgeron as HC at the end of last year?? Not many. What's so different now???
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:10 am to
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He's been very good while under an excellent recruiting head coach like miles and Pete Carroll.

His recruiting classes at ole miss ranked like this...

2005 - 30
2006 - 17
2007 - 28

Compared to hugh freeze..

2013 - 7
2014 - 17
2015 - 20

Must not be that great.
This is funny because Freeze was actually the recruiting coordinator for Orgeron at Ole Miss.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:21 am to
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How many wanted Orgeron as HC at the end of last year?? Not many. What's so different now???
He talked to the media and people liked what they heard. And then they liked what they saw on the field.
quote:

Hal Hunter SMOKED a highly ranked Arkansas team in '99 after Dinardo was fired. New team...new coach...new start. People were calling for him as head coach then as well.
The deal with Saban was probably already done at that point. Also, did Hunter even want the job?
Posted by TigerKnight03
San Diego
Member since Sep 2012
101 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:52 am to
No person alive can walk in and dominate the SEC in year one.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4870 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:56 am to
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Also, did Hunter even want the job?


Would it have really mattered if he did? Even if Saban wasn't a done deal? Has Hal been a head coach since??
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