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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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With the talent in Louisiana that is abundance I think O will thrive here.
First off...is that English?
Secondly, Miles has proven that talent alone doesn't result in titles. Some of you can't seem to grasp the fact that there is a certain amount of strategy and scheme required to be a top-level program.
We're not going to simply "out-talent" Ohio State, Alabama, or Florida State. Hell, we couldn't even do it against Wisconsin and their roster dominated by three-stars.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:38 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss
Why because he said so?
Oh okay then . Lets stake LSU football programs future on that line then.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:56 pm to boweswi05
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quote: He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss
Why because he said so? Oh okay then . Lets stake LSU football programs future on that line then.
Yes, because he said so. He clearly laid out on radio what mistakes he made at Ole Miss, what he learned from them, and how he changed what he did when he got the opportunity at USC and now, LSU.
So far Coach O has done everything right. Let's see if that continues. If it does, he deserves serious consideration. It still might not make him the number one choice, but he would be high on the list.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:01 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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Rich Rod
Gus Malzahn
Dana Holgerson
Mark Helfrich
Kevin Sumlin
Chad Morris
Brian Kelley
None has had sustain success at a P5 school.
Rich Rod: Back when it was P6, Rich Rod was a damned good coach for West Virginia in the (then) Big East.
Gus Malzahn: Went to a national championship game. You'd take that, given the chance.
Kevin Sumlin: Has A&M winning at a more regular clip than usual, against tougher competition than A&M has faced in the past.
Brian Kelly: Doesn't even coach at a P5 school, if we're being technical.
The right 'fit' matters, no matter what program / coaching style you're discussing. I think Tom Herman would be a great fit at LSU. I also think Jimbo Fisher would be a great fit.
Chip Kelly, on the other hand, would be a 'bad' fit, but he'd come in with some much credibility that nobody would care that he's ornery and unpleasant, because he'd guarantee LSU huge offensive production, insane offensive recruiting and 10+ wins a season.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:09 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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Brian Kelley
Has certainly had sustained success. Especially given the constraints placed on ND recruiting.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:12 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Who knows where it will end up but I'd take Orgeron with Malzhan as OC once Auburn fires him. Keep Aranda and LSU is a juggernaut. 
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:14 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
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I think LSU is one of those jobs where O would be a good fit whereas he may not be as good of a fit in other gigs.
Exactly, Saban didn't fit in Louisiana, he thought Cajun people were too dumb.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:20 pm to HMTVBrian2
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he's a coonass! He talks like us! He loves LSU!!
Stop with the sarcasm, most LSU fans are willing to wait and see how the season plays out, others are demanding that someone other than the CEO gets the gig.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:18 am to TrueTigerTale
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Dabo didn't have a lot of success until he hired Chad Morris who runs a pass happy version of Malzahns system. Tahj Boyd and Deshaun Watson had a lot to do with his success. Kudos to him for recruiting them.
It is too early to tell if Coach O will run the table and earn his shot, but the statement above is exactly why Coach O might be a good fit- he could be our Debo.
Coach O has said if he doesn't win enough games he doesn't deserve the job, so we'll see. I want to keep our defensive intensity/skill/ability so I can see why it would make sense to hire O, keep Aranda and bring in an offensive coordinator. But I can also see why you'd want to bring in Fisher who has a track record of developing QBs (can you imagine how Myles Brennan would develop under Fisher?)
So for me it's a toss up- which is less risky? Can Coach O keep our defensive staff and bring in a quality offensive coordinator to improve our offense, or can Jimbo develop our QBs and improve the offense and bring in/keep our defensive abilities?
I guess we have to trust Alleva to determine that (and that doesn't make me feel too comfortable, either...)
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:32 am to rsbd
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Jimbos mediocre arse
One of 4 coaches to win a natty this decade.
Brought FSU back from mediocrity.
3 first round QBs recruited and developed.
sounds pretty mediocre compared to Coach O's....losing head coaching record?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:33 am to Royal Tiger Fan
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Chad Morris
is still a hot coach, dont know why he went to SMU but he's doubled their win total from previous year and matched that win total in 5 games this year.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:37 am to SportTiger1
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He's been very good while under an excellent recruiting head coach like miles and Pete Carroll.
His recruiting classes at ole miss ranked like this...
2005 - 30
2006 - 17
2007 - 28
Compared to hugh freeze..
2013 - 7
2014 - 17
2015 - 20
Must not be that great.
And all the other Crap you posted is your opinion based on zero facts.
ouch... truth hurts sometimes...
Lets back Coach O for the rest of the season and thank him for his service, then put him right back on the DL and recruiting coordinator job with a good raise right when we hire our new coach..
He could win the national title this year. (And he just might) and he still should not get the job..
I swear we have so many emotional decision makers on this board its crazy.. like damn women..
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:54 am to TigerFan55555
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I swear we have so many emotional decision makers on this board its crazy.. like damn women..
They may try to convince themselves there are legit reasons he would be a good coach, but ultimately, it comes down to how he makes them 'feel'.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:35 am to Royal Tiger Fan
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I think O has the potential to be to LSU what Dabo Swinney is to Clemson.
What would you guess is the difference in IQ between those two? Thirty points?
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:50 am to Royal Tiger Fan
I absolutely love coach O and am pulling for him. But I just don't get the knee jerk reaction by some of the people on this board relative to making him permanent. It's about attitude with the team...they ALL wanted a new start. Hal Hunter SMOKED a highly ranked Arkansas team in '99 after Dinardo was fired. New team...new coach...new start. People were calling for him as head coach then as well. It's the same shite now...a fresh start. How many wanted Orgeron as HC at the end of last year?? Not many. What's so different now???
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:10 am to SportTiger1
quote:This is funny because Freeze was actually the recruiting coordinator for Orgeron at Ole Miss.
He's been very good while under an excellent recruiting head coach like miles and Pete Carroll.
His recruiting classes at ole miss ranked like this...
2005 - 30
2006 - 17
2007 - 28
Compared to hugh freeze..
2013 - 7
2014 - 17
2015 - 20
Must not be that great.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:21 am to TheBaker
quote:He talked to the media and people liked what they heard. And then they liked what they saw on the field.
How many wanted Orgeron as HC at the end of last year?? Not many. What's so different now???
quote:The deal with Saban was probably already done at that point. Also, did Hunter even want the job?
Hal Hunter SMOKED a highly ranked Arkansas team in '99 after Dinardo was fired. New team...new coach...new start. People were calling for him as head coach then as well.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:52 am to boweswi05
No person alive can walk in and dominate the SEC in year one.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:56 am to Korkstand
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Also, did Hunter even want the job?
Would it have really mattered if he did? Even if Saban wasn't a done deal? Has Hal been a head coach since??
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