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Random LSU Hero is right IMO...all about fit.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:07 pm
It is all about the fit of the job. And I think LSU is one of those jobs where O would be a good fit whereas he may not be as good of a fit in other gigs.
I don't think LSU needs the "offensive genius" that is the flavor of the month. Once defenses figures out how to slow it down (and misses in recruiting leaves you without the personnel to run the system - see Auburn) that genius label wears off. The following offensive coaches were all hot names at one time:
Rich Rod
Gus Malzahn
Dana Holgerson
Mark Helfrich
Kevin Sumlin
Chad Morris
Brian Kelley
None has had sustain success at a P5 school.
I think O has the potential to be to LSU what Dabo Swinney is to Clemson. A great motivator who hired the right assistants to do their jobs, and keep the cupboard full of talent as great recruiters. Remember, Dabo also was a interim...and was also just a position coach who fired the OC upon hiring and implemented changes and energy into the program. And I think LSU is in a much better position than Clemson was.
With the talent in Louisiana that is abundance I think O will thrive here.
I don't think LSU needs the "offensive genius" that is the flavor of the month. Once defenses figures out how to slow it down (and misses in recruiting leaves you without the personnel to run the system - see Auburn) that genius label wears off. The following offensive coaches were all hot names at one time:
Rich Rod
Gus Malzahn
Dana Holgerson
Mark Helfrich
Kevin Sumlin
Chad Morris
Brian Kelley
None has had sustain success at a P5 school.
I think O has the potential to be to LSU what Dabo Swinney is to Clemson. A great motivator who hired the right assistants to do their jobs, and keep the cupboard full of talent as great recruiters. Remember, Dabo also was a interim...and was also just a position coach who fired the OC upon hiring and implemented changes and energy into the program. And I think LSU is in a much better position than Clemson was.
With the talent in Louisiana that is abundance I think O will thrive here.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:40 pm
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:10 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Do you also think that he should be the highest paid Offensive Coordinator in the SEC?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:11 pm to Ironhead985
C'mon man, I hope that dude edit his thread...
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:14 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Have to admit it was good for a laugh, though.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:16 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
quote:
None has had sustain success at a P5 school. I think O has the potential to be to LSU what Dabo Swinney is to Clemson. A great motivator who hired the right assistants to do their jobs, and keep the cupboard full of talent as great recruiters. Remember, Dabo also was a interim...and was also just a position coach who fired the OC upon hiring and implemented changes and energy into the program. And I think LSU is in a much better position than Clemson was. With the talent in Louisiana that is abundance I think O will thrive here.
Based on what? What will cause him to all of a sudden dominate the SEC.
Let me hear this it should be good
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:47 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Hey man don't let all the Jimbo cock guzzlers rain on your parade.. They are the ones that want to settle for Jimbos mediocre arse, and will also be the ones bitching about it being a bad hire when he shits the bed..
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:48 pm to rsbd
If jumbo is mediocre, what does that make orgeron?
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:51 pm to Macintosh
Your daddy
And undefeated as LSU's head coach bitch boy
And undefeated as LSU's head coach bitch boy
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:54 pm to rsbd
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Your daddy And undefeated as LSU's head coach bitch boy
Still waiting on why he will dominate in the SEC after taking over a team someone else built?
We have seen Orgeron build a team and it wasn't pretty.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:56 pm to rsbd
quote:
And undefeated as LSU's head coach bitch boy
So you've got nothing. Got it.
Coach O didn't sniff mediocre at ole miss
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:59 pm to Macintosh
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If jumbo is mediocre, what does that make orgeron?
Boom
I bet you don't get an answer to your question; other than the usual STTDB rebuttal.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:03 pm to jrodLSUke
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quote:If jumbo is mediocre, what does that make orgeron? Boom I bet you don't get an answer to your question; other than the usual STTDB rebuttal.
Yep they will calmly with a straight face say he is from LA. Then walk away like 2 dudes did today I was talking too.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:09 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
Dabo didn't have a lot of success until he hired Chad Morris who runs a pass happy version of Malzahns system. Tahj Boyd and Deshaun Watson had a lot to do with his success. Kudos to him for recruiting them.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:13 pm to warau
God I love the logic of people that try to detract what Jimbo has done while propping up O.
Jimbo should work on getting a Cajun accent. That's the only way to win over this fan base apparently
Jimbo should work on getting a Cajun accent. That's the only way to win over this fan base apparently
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:17 pm to wildtigercat93
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Jimbo should work on getting a Cajun accent. That's the only way to win over this fan base apparently
Bingo
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:19 pm to boweswi05
Jimbo is a good ole baw he fits too
Not like a Cajun but still
Not like a Cajun but still
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:39 pm to rsbd
quote:
Hey man don't let all the Jimbo cock guzzlers rain on your parade.. They are the ones that want to settle for Jimbos mediocre arse, and will also be the ones bitching about it being a bad hire when he shits the bed..
No it to mention the bad character he will recruit.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:42 pm to boweswi05
Again...it is about the fit. The actual Fit in a job is what makes it successful. It's why DCs don't take head jobs in mid level conferences because the talent tilts to the offenses and the former OCs as HCs in those conferences can win games 42-38 and look good. But I'll list the reasons why I think he will be good:
1. He's as talented as a recruiter there is and he will keep the cupboard full.
2. In keeping with his theme of being a good recruiter, I believe he can recruit talented coaches to handle the Xs and Os. He can run the program and the CEO (no pun intended duties)
3. He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss and no longer meddles in his assistant coaches doing their jobs. Lots of good coaches learn from their mistakes. Bill Belichick failed as a HC. Pete Carroll failed as a HC. Nick Saban failed as a HC. Tom Coughlin was fired from Jax and won two SBs with the Giants. Kubiak failed in Houston, won in Denver.
1. He's as talented as a recruiter there is and he will keep the cupboard full.
2. In keeping with his theme of being a good recruiter, I believe he can recruit talented coaches to handle the Xs and Os. He can run the program and the CEO (no pun intended duties)
3. He's learned from his mistakes at Ole Miss and no longer meddles in his assistant coaches doing their jobs. Lots of good coaches learn from their mistakes. Bill Belichick failed as a HC. Pete Carroll failed as a HC. Nick Saban failed as a HC. Tom Coughlin was fired from Jax and won two SBs with the Giants. Kubiak failed in Houston, won in Denver.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:43 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
VERY GOOD POINT.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:24 pm to Royal Tiger Fan
quote:
He's as talented as a recruiter there is and he will keep the cupboard full.
He's been very good while under an excellent recruiting head coach like miles and Pete Carroll.
His recruiting classes at ole miss ranked like this...
2005 - 30
2006 - 17
2007 - 28
Compared to hugh freeze..
2013 - 7
2014 - 17
2015 - 20
Must not be that great.
And all the other Crap you posted is your opinion based on zero facts.
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