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re: Purdue hiring UNLV’s Barry Odom
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:19 pm to RoyalAir
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:19 pm to RoyalAir
UNLV is probably a better job, with better resources here lately too (Raiders just gave UNLV football a million dollars). And a much easier path to relevancy and a playoff spot just like this year.
Weird move unless there is something behind the scenes between him and UNLV, likely over the disaster of the QB quitting and a lot of heat and blame put on Odom/AD that could have caused him to want to leave.
Weird move unless there is something behind the scenes between him and UNLV, likely over the disaster of the QB quitting and a lot of heat and blame put on Odom/AD that could have caused him to want to leave.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:55 pm to RoyalAir
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But Brohm hit the ceiling there.
no he didn't
but it's not easy there, we agree on that
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:00 pm to msudawg1200
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Wish State would've hired him last year when we had the chance
He will not be that much better. He is okay but not great.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:28 pm to nvasil1
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that's one possibility. if I'm barry odom, i build purdue into the best program i can, and then stay there as long as possible, kinda like Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern or Ferentz at Iowa
if he's already been at a program like mizzou and been fired, what's the point in just getting to a blue blood with all that pressure?
purdue is a solid program in the big 10 with decent resources, and if you go 7-5-ish most years, they'll be happy. he should parlay that to a long-term contract (10 year/$65M) and be set
that's what I'd do anyways
I'm with you. Look at Bert at Illinois. They just went 9-3, and the only game they were totally outclassed in was against Oregon. In his 2nd year, they were a couple of heartbreakers away from being in the B1G CG.
I heard someone on local Chicago radio say that if Bert hangs around for the long haul, stays competitive, and has just one or two great seasons (for Illinois), he'd probably have a street named after him on campus.
Odom could have the same at Purdue. Joe Tiller is revered there, and never even had a 10-win season.
One drawback is Odom did enough to get to a bowl game but still tends to lose to teams he shouldn't have. Plus where is Purdue going to get the NIL money to compete with the top schools that have much bigger NIL money to keep lesser football programs from succeeding. Indiana HC is the better HC because he knows how to win and get the right coaches and players to build a competitive team. Just maybe Odom has smarten up and is ready to make it work. I doubt it.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:55 pm to TrueLefty
I would imagine that Purdue has a lot of rich alumni. The right guy just needs to get the NIL $$$ going.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:04 pm to timbo
People talking about NIL are forgetting that rev share is coming and all B1G schools are going to be set up pretty damn well there.
At least they should be.
And don't forget; Indiana, a basketball school, just upped Cignetti's assistant pool to $11M. Almost equal to OSU. Purdue should have plenty of money.
At least they should be.
And don't forget; Indiana, a basketball school, just upped Cignetti's assistant pool to $11M. Almost equal to OSU. Purdue should have plenty of money.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:18 pm to UltimateHog
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UNLV is probably a better job, with better resources here lately too (Raiders just gave UNLV football a million dollars). And a much easier path to relevancy and a playoff spot just like this year.
A million dollars? lol
The gulf in resources between a B1G school, even Purdue, and a UNLV is vast
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:35 pm to UltimateHog
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UNLV is probably a better job, with better resources here lately too
If UNLV had joined the reformed Pac 12 and the conference was getting a major investment from Apple and CW in an effort to boost their own football properties sure.
But they decided to stay in the MWC and their eventual TV deal is surely going to shrink from the current one due to losing Boise/SDSU/CSU/USU/Fresno.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:56 pm to Dr RC
Would assume UNLV will promote Marion
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:15 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Bobinski admitted the Wild West nature of the start of the NIL era created a “world (which) did not advantage Purdue.” Some donors did not respond to the idea of paying players above the traditional college scholarship model. The athletic program does not overtly push the NIL concept or its donor collective, Boilermaker Alliance, at football and men's basketball games.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:45 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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no he didn't
I'm a Purdue grad. Brohm beat Ohio State, and then played for a BigTen title a few years later.
He also beat Tennessee in a bowl game.
There's not much more room above that for Purdue. It's Georgia Tech in the Arctic.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:46 pm to tigerfan84
With LSU possibly having a DC opening if the Sumrall to UNC rumors come to fruition, I wonder how much shine Walters has lost as a DC candidate.
In his two seasons at Purdue, the Boilermakers were #105 in team defense, but they got even worse this year and finished at #124.
He coordinated the #1 defense in the country at Illinois and parlayed that into the Purdue job.
In his two seasons at Purdue, the Boilermakers were #105 in team defense, but they got even worse this year and finished at #124.
He coordinated the #1 defense in the country at Illinois and parlayed that into the Purdue job.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:49 pm to UltimateHog
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UNLV is probably a better job, with better resources here lately too (Raiders just gave UNLV football a million dollars). And a much easier path to relevancy and a playoff spot just like this year.
Purdue is probably 3xing his UNLV salary. He's set for life after signing this deal.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:47 pm to RoyalAir
At least Georgia Tech is in Atlanta. I’ve never been to West Lafayette, Indiana, but I can’t imagine it would have the same appeal to an 18-22 year old football player.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 11:50 pm to usc6158
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Would assume UNLV will promote Marion
Not too many things more enjoyable in life to me than Petros Papadakis talking about the Go-Go Offense on FS1 late at night.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:47 am to tigerfan84
The fact that Jeff Brohm took that program to a Big Ten Championship game is a miracle in itself
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:20 am to timbo
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I’ve never been to West Lafayette, Indiana, but I can’t imagine it would have the same appeal to an 18-22 year old football player.
West Lafayette is a cool college town. It's exactly what you want in a little town.
It's bitterly cold in the winter. And it's tucked away from the population centers in the state. But, no, it had very little female talent, and it's an engineering school. You go there, like Tech, to figure out how ti build shite and be an astronaut (literally).
It cannot be competitive in football.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:26 am to timbo
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I’ve never been to West Lafayette, Indiana, but I can’t imagine it would have the same appeal to an 18-22 year old football player.
I don't understand why fans think like this. If the 'city's was the main thing why aren't schools like Tulane, UNLV, Hawaii, USC, UCLA, fielding teams of all 5 star players?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:07 am to timbo
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At least Georgia Tech is in Atlanta. I’ve never been to West Lafayette, Indiana, but I can’t imagine it would have the same appeal to an 18-22 year old football player.
beyond stupid statement
is tuscaloosa considered cool? how about clemson, auburn, norman, south bend, baton rouge, Eugene?
if the "coolness" of a town was the most important factor then the best teams would be UNLV, UCLA, Rutgers, Northwestern, and SMU
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:30 am to dupergreenie
quote:That's been our history recently -- a baseline of 'Not Embarrassing', and one or two outlier players who come here for whatever personal reason. Tiller disrupted that by somehow being a hot coach, and we've been chasing that lightning in a bottle ever since.
Get some NIL money and get a couple of decent players and that could be a decent job.
This year, of course, 'Embarrassing' took hold bigtime.
When we get more than a couple of outlier players, it's a solid team with capability to upset the big-shots, but not consistently enough to be a big shot ourselves. And the people here are, as mentioned, pretty happy with a 7-5 team year in and year out, with those upsets thrown in once in a while.,
The NIL environment though is going to be a big big problem here, I think. Purdue generally expects players to be genuine students as well, and I don't know if that can work anymore with a team in a big name conference.
I expect over the next 5 or 10 years to see college football turn even more towards the 10-20 big powers and 100 casual (and financially broke) college teams, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair number of schools drop football entirely.
The massive TV money keeping the bottom of the big conferences alive will dry up to some extent, sooner or later, and the top of the conferences will start getting antsy about money going to the bottom of the list instead of staying in their own pockets, so I also wouldn't be surprised to see the massive mega-conferences contract and spin off some mid-tiers.
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