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PJ Fleck Update

Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Random LSU Hero
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:51 pm
Asked one of my sources about him... my sources quote.

"Haven't heard much rumbles about him connected to the LSU job. My guess is he doesn't have enough skins on the wall to be legitimately considered for this job."


ETA: sounds like he would fall behind the "Retain O" slot. Assuming O goes undefeated or 1 loss.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted by boweswi05
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Asked one of my sources about him... my sources quote. "Haven't heard much rumbles about him connected to the LSU job. My guess is he doesn't have enough skins on the wall to be legitimately considered for this job."



Well what the hell has CEO done to be considered.
Posted by Random LSU Hero
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:56 pm to
I got news for you. With the exception of his failure at Ole Miss as a HC (which he's owned and learned from), his resume is pretty damn impeccable. Couple that with his strong Louisiana ties.
Posted by Lebowski
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:57 pm to
quote:




Well what the hell has CEO done to be considered.



No shite
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:57 pm to
He's from Louisiana and has run a masterful PR campaign
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

With the exception of his failure at Ole Miss as a HC


I.E. the one time he was given a full time job
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:57 pm to
I would love to see Fleck get the Kentucky job (assuming stoops gets fired) or a lower tier power school and see what he can do with it.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:59 pm to
I'm 100% convinced Fleck is the next big thing, he's going to be a great coach for someone, I just wish it was us but I doubt Alleva has the vision to make such a move
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:59 pm to
he took a promotion way before he was ready. Id be concerned about hiring O if he was acting like Will Muschamp and bringing in the same oc that helped get him fired.

Will took a year off from head coach and he didn't learn a thing from his failure at UF. O on the other hand has had other stints and has stated what he learned from the failure.

I think its fair to hold ole miss against him, but its also fair to take into consideration that he learned from it.
Posted by boweswi05
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

(which he's owned and learned from),



How the hell do you know if he has learned from them or not? Let me guess " he said so".


quote:

Couple that with his strong Louisiana ties



This is a better reason but don't give me the bullshite of the first quote.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

I got news for you. With the exception of his failure at Ole Miss as a HC


Which is literally the only time he's been a full time HC.

And he went 3-21 in the SEC, got worse each year he was there, and was far worse than both his predecessor and successor.

quote:

which he's owned and learned from


Maybe.

Maybe not.

Is LSU a guinea pig level program that should take the chance and find out?

quote:

his resume is pretty damn impeccable.


Not really.

Lots of successful interim coaches that are terrible head coaches.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:01 pm to
I believe he would be better here than he was at OM, I just have a hard time seeing him winning more than 8 or 9 games on a consistent basis.

But hey if he wins out or even goes 7-1 with a good loss then fine give him a shot.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

With the exception of his failure at Ole Miss as a HC (which he's owned and learned from), his resume is pretty damn impeccable.


With the exception of the Nicole Brown Simpson murder, OJ had a pretty damn impeccable record for following the law.

With the exception of its crash, the Hindenburg had a pretty damn impeccable flight record.

And so on.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:04 pm to
its not unreasonable to believe that. I have said it before but id consider him tier 2 and at the top of that. He is a known for us at this time. We know he can recruit and i like the process that i have seen him taken in as the interm coach and i think it would work long term as well.

I look at O like a dabo with a higher ceiling. I was pretty sure Dabo would be a failure considering he is a retard. However, he went out and found a great oc and dc. I think O can do that with our budget.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:04 pm to
Well if our hire this year goes to shite, we will probably have a shot at Fleck in 3 years after he has been somewhere other than Western Michigan.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:05 pm to
IF it wasn't CEO and he wasn't from LA , would LSU even consider hiring another guy with a similar resume?



NOPE
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

his resume is pretty damn impeccable

Name one other SEC school that, if the HC position was opened, would have Ed O in their top 3. No flame. No trap. Honest question of your opinion.

My opinion is that there isn't another school that would have him in their top 3 as HC and that LSU has him there because of
quote:

his strong Louisiana ties
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:08 pm to
Thanks. I feel like we have enough threads of people pissing themselves about O.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 5:10 pm to
He's been on staff the last two years as well, so he has the pulse of the team. It's not like they pulled him straight off the street to interim.
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