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re: My two negative talking points Re: Dave Aranda

Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:01 pm to
SW hasn’t given up on him……
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Outside of saban, Kirby and aranda I can’t think of any other elite defensive minds off the top of my head.


Lol
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Lester Earl


As soon as I saw this name, I didn’t even give the body of this book he wrote any time.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Map out the 7yrs of the CFB playoff, all 28 teams & their coaches, and it’s easy to pinpoint what the majority of them all share.

HCs with offensive minded backgrounds, and excellent QB play .


Saban is an offensive minded coach?

Dabo was a offensive position coach (not OC before becoming HC) that hit on some great QBs, but they had the #1 D in 2019 and Venables has been a huge part of their success the last few years.

Kirby is currently #1 and is a defensive guru.

OU is/was an offensive juggernaut and gets bounced every year in the CFP.

There is no perfect or exact formula outside of having a top QB. That is the big constant.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:15 pm to
You’re going to make me write it out for you, aren’t you
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:17 pm to
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This goes both ways. If you have an offensive minded coach then they need to nail the DC hire all the time.


Meh. Much easier to over come bad defense with a good offense than the other way around in the modern era.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:17 pm to
Oh look another Napier fan boy and moronic thread by Lester Earl. I thought you would be gone with your master O.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33818 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Aranda failed at this already in just 2 years

That is my point. Why would you trust him? His sample size is small but there are red flags people are choosing to ignore


I shite on aranda for hiring fedora and munoz but it was late in the cycle.

The fact that he has to hit the oc does scare me.
I do think offense dictates.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:20 pm to
If Napier bring my 4th choice makes me a fan boy, so be it
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:20 pm to
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the other way around in the modern era.



Billy Napier is riding the crappy offense good defense train. Problem is he’s an offensive guy.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:21 pm to
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If Napier bring my 4th choice makes me a fan boy, so be it




Curious to your list.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:21 pm to
I'm going to take exception to Aranda being called "an elite defensive mind". He is a good coach but what about his tenure at LSU says "elite". Very good, maybe.

And that's me being Aranda favorable.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:22 pm to
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I'm going to take exception to Aranda being called "an elite defensive mind". He is a good coach but what about his tenure at LSU says "elite". Very good, maybe.




There aren’t any elite defenses anymore

Aranda has been about as good as it gets for the past half-decade
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288319 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:24 pm to
Riley
Campbell
Kiffin
Napier
Aranda

Of the names being mentioned
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33818 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:24 pm to
What were his offensive ranks last year?

Were they down 2 years in a row or is he just having a down year?

I think napier is more of an overall coach then people realize. He sets the tone of the program.

I don't know if he is some offensive savant but he will run a clean program and have his teams ready to play.

Napier is a good coach.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:27 pm to
Lester Earl likes being consistently wrong.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61987 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:30 pm to
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I’m not disagreeing with your summary of Aranda’s first year but you must remember he was hired near the end of LSU’s championship run. So he had to prep for the playoffs, title game and then immediately afterward get on a plane to Baylor.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36412 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Riley
Campbell
Kiffin
Napier
Aranda

Of the names being mentioned



I get “it’s Iowa state” but I’m not high on Campbell. He’s been mediocre outside of covid season and was handled by ULL. I get mediocrity is a massive improvement from history but still.

Definitely agree that kiffin should be taken a lot more seriously than he seem to be. Whichever he ends up at (Florida or Miami) he is going to win big at.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:38 pm to
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He’s been mediocre outside of covid season


No he hasn’t

Previous 5 seasons before him: 20 wins

Last 5 seasons with Campbell: 35 wins



And That’s with a 3-win year 1


You don’t understand how trash Iowa St was
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33818 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 1:51 pm to
Campbell is a good coach.

Your hate for napier is something else.

You lose to napier you are out
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