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re: Mel Tucker isn't a bad coach at all.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:02 am to GeauxTigerNation
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:02 am to GeauxTigerNation
Name one win that is impressive at MSU.
I’ll wait.
I’ll wait.
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:08 am to Draconian Sanctions
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My only point is that if you can’t get a A tier candidate then Tucker isn’t really all that more or less risky than a lot of guys out there
In my opinion, Tucker is more risky than others because we don't really know that much about him in terms of running a program.
He's coached two and a half seasons at two different schools. He was hired by MSU so late, his first season was basically meaningless, and like I mentioned, he brought in a ton of transfers this year.
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I mean if we hired Kiffin and had a few nice seasons before he flamed out, would you really be surprised? I would hire Kiffin before Tucker fwiw but you can’t say he’s no risk.
You're right, I can't say he'd be no risk. However, I would be a little surprised if Kiffin flamed out after a few years because he's never been a HC anywhere long enough for us to see it.
And before you bring up USC, he took that job right after the NCAA hammered them. Pat Haden was also a dumbass of an AD.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 12:09 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:09 am to GeauxTigerNation
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but this guy took a rock bottom Michigan State team and has them in the hunt right now.
Why make shite up?
He took a 7-6 team and then went 2-5
At Colorado he took a 5-6 team and went 5-7
He will play 4 ranked teams, 3 of which are in the Top 10 over the next 5 games. He could finish 7-5, if his past history repeats itself
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:12 am to nvasil1
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And before you bring up USC
I don’t even care about USC, he was absolutely on tilt against Bama from the word go. It looked like the moment was too big for him IMO
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:12 am to GeauxTigerNation
The sample size on Tucker the HC is way too small and his DC track record is kind of spotty. The guy shouldn’t be one of the top 3 names for this job best on his resume other than people trying to invoke Saban comparisons that aren’t there
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:44 am to GeauxTigerNation
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It's impressive considering the state of Mich State before him
He was 5-7 at Colorado and 2-5 in his first season at Mich St (Covid shortened).
He's 7-0 now but hasn't played a ranked team yet. 4/5 of his final games are vs ranked teams. Let's see how he does against good teams.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:12 am to GeauxTigerNation
Talk to me in December. His schedule so far has been fluff and there have been close games in that fluff.
4 of his next 5 games are against ranked opponents, so if you’re Tucker’s agent, you’ve got 13 days to leverage LSU for a bigger deal at MSU or sign with LSU
4 of his next 5 games are against ranked opponents, so if you’re Tucker’s agent, you’ve got 13 days to leverage LSU for a bigger deal at MSU or sign with LSU
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:16 am to brett408
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Franklin and Tucker should not be candidates. Not impressed with either.
Franklin won at Vandy. Imagine what he could do at LSU.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:21 am to GeauxTigerNation
Stop acting like MSU was. 3-7 team the years before Tucker came in. They were mediocre bowl teams at 7-6 the previous two seasons. He didn’t take over a dumpster fire like you claim.
They were 10-3, 7-6 and 7-6 the preceding. Three seasons. They had one losing record since 2010.
They were 10-3, 7-6 and 7-6 the preceding. Three seasons. They had one losing record since 2010.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:27 am to moontigr
Can’t look at it that way, it happened as it did and they found a way to win bottom line.
If we run the ball in the 4th quarter, we beat Auburn. If Florida doesn’t meltdown over a counter, we lose that one. You could do this all day every year.
If we run the ball in the 4th quarter, we beat Auburn. If Florida doesn’t meltdown over a counter, we lose that one. You could do this all day every year.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 7:33 am to GeauxTigerNation
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isn't a bad coach
We definitely need a much higher standard than this
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:25 am to GeauxTigerNation
He is not a Slash Hire and his coaching record is meh.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:44 am to GeauxTigerNation
LSU is considered a top 3 coaching job in the nation. Mel Tucker is not on this level yet regardless of color.
I had no idea who he was until these coaching threads. He probably isn’t a bad coach but we’re not looking for a well “he isn’t a bad coach” type of hire. Woodward will hire a big name coach.
Mel Tucker is a 500 win percentage coach at this point. Even if he does well the rest of the year, one good season, see coach O, does not qualify you for a top 3 coaching job in the nation.
I had no idea who he was until these coaching threads. He probably isn’t a bad coach but we’re not looking for a well “he isn’t a bad coach” type of hire. Woodward will hire a big name coach.
Mel Tucker is a 500 win percentage coach at this point. Even if he does well the rest of the year, one good season, see coach O, does not qualify you for a top 3 coaching job in the nation.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:47 pm to Tigahs24Seven
You do know where Nick Saban came from, dont you?
So you are comparing him to Saban??
So you are comparing him to Saban??
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:55 pm to pcolatiger28
He fits Tate’s qualifications. David Shaw might be a Tate guy too.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:29 am to ashy larry
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Franklin won at Vandy. Imagine what he could do at LSU.
Hmmm, where have we seen this before??
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:35 am to GeauxTigerNation
Based on this board you'll think the guy was coaching defense at starlings park in New Orleans i.e. he is not qualified based on this board.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:45 am to floyd13
Is Mel Tucker wildly different (for better or worse) of a candidate than Aranda?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:47 am to GeauxTigerNation
I don't think he is a "bad" coach at all. I do want to see how he handles the upcoming games. To date they have played no one really. . Oh and IDGAF what color he is.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 9:01 am to GeauxTigerNation
quote:Get back to us after he's played someone. The schedule is front loaded with patsies.
I know you guys want the next Saban, but this guy took a rock bottom Michigan State team and has them in the hunt right now.
Isn't what we want someone who can come in and have success immediately? He checks that box.
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