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re: Les Miles from an outsider

Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Jdixon
Member since Aug 2014
2936 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:14 pm to
I have to say the saying "LSU recruits itself" is about the stupidest thing I've heard in awhile. Just not a good argument at all in reasoning.
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6224 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:45 pm to
I get the gist, and agree
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Does Miles want to be here?


Saban left after five years and Les is going into his 11th. If you cant see one didn't want to be here and one does, I cant help you.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70926 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I could argue that LSU recruits itself. When is the last time LSU didn't recruit well?



I agree with most of what you said, and think LSU can do better than Miles, but the above quote is untrue. No school sells itself. Look at UF, Texas, Bama before Saban, and even LSU before Saban. Theyr ecruited well, but not consistently in the top 10 like they are now.

If you'd said "I think plenty of coaches could take over the program now and be successful" then I'd fully agree.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

think LSU can do better than Miles


Anything is possible. LSU basketball might win the championship this year or next.

If you think coaches who can be top three in wins and top two in wins in the SEC over a ten year period are easy to find, you are delusional.

Some of you need to open your eyes to the fact LSU in the last ten years has been more successful than 99% of BCS schools.

You might want to gamble, and it's a fricking big gamble no matter what some clowns posting here think, on LSU finding better than Les, but count me out of your delusion.

Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
3928 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

The top program in the country


LSU was NOT the top program in the country. The year before Saban won a natty, the Tigers were 8-5. The year after, 9-3 (excluding the bowl loss to Iowa)

Some Tiger fans are so fricked up over Saban leaving, they start believing he did at LSU what he's done at Bama. Not knocking the rebuild he did but stop with the revisionist history.


Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19098 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:30 pm to
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I agree with most of what you said, and think LSU can do better than Miles,


I just love reading the muses of the delusional fanbase regarding coaching. Even when LSU was wallowing around in losing seasons back in the 90's the fans were of the opinion that Dennis Erickson, Spurrier, Mack Brown, etc were just sitting by the phone waiting for LSU to call... And we got Archer, Hallman, and Dinardeau.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77571 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

No school sells itself.

Correct, but I believe as long as we hire a decent recruiter and also someone who can make good assistant hires, we will be at worst the same as we are now.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84882 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

I just love reading the muses of the delusional fanbase regarding coaching. Even when LSU was wallowing around in losing seasons back in the 90's the fans were of the opinion that Dennis Erickson, Spurrier, Mack Brown, etc were just sitting by the phone waiting for LSU to call... And we got Archer, Hallman, and Dinardeau.


I legit remember people saying we would replace Hallman with Jimmy Johnson.
Posted by jrctiger84
New orleans
Member since Aug 2013
618 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 8:43 pm to
You guys hanging on Sabans nuts is incredibly funny. I would bet some of you even still suck your thumbs is a pacifier.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20443 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:38 pm to
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Remember where you were before Miles? Uhh... LSU had the best coach in the country
No, that was USC with Pete Carroll. You know, the guy who had offense to go with his defense, and actually succeeded in the jump to the NFL.

Saban learned his limitations in Miami, and found the perfect place to rebound: a place with unlimited funding, excellent resources and recruiting potential, desperate enough for wins to put up with his ego-maniacal ways, and he struck gold.

I wonder if our (LSU's) fanbase is any more delusional than, say, Oregon's. One day, USC will get the right guy, and the Pac 12 will belong to the Trojans again. When that happens, will the Ducks fans start demanding they demolish everything they've built?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77571 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

Saban learned his limitations in Miami, and found the perfect place to rebound: a place with unlimited funding, excellent resources and recruiting potential, desperate enough for wins to put up with his ego-maniacal ways, and he struck gold.

Any school would put up with Saban. You act like its hard to put up with a stubborn coach when it results in titles
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10901 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:15 am to
I think Les Miles will end up at Michigan one day. He'll retire from coaching and go there to be AD. He is a smart guy and a good people person. I think he would do well in that capacity once he decides to move on from coaching.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
2865 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:35 am to
Without interjecting my opinions on the matter, it is good to hear someone's else view outside the LSU bubble but still in the SEC.

Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:44 pm to
How many national championships did LSU have prior to Saban?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62017 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:52 pm to
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And we got Archer, Hallman, and Dinardeau.



You get what you pay for.


Our athletic facilities were subpar, and our coaching pay was terrible. I'm going to go out on a hunch and say that LSU could drum up a little more interest for the head football coaching position in 2015 than we could in 1989.
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1051 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

SwaggerCopterLes Miles from an outsiderRemember where you were before Miles? Uhh... LSU had the best coach in the country.
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1051 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:47 pm to
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SwaggerCopterLes Miles from an outsiderRemember where you were before Miles? Uhh... LSU had the best coach in the country.


The coach in the country you speak of , is at best a good coach , but a smart man . Recruiting = $$$$ as in "What you gonna give me to save your butt" LSU needs to up the $$$$ or bennies when recruiting . It is not about the school education , pr the coach .
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