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Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:08 am to Choctaw
quote:
I'm saying Saban didn't recruit shite in 2004.
are you out of your mind?
Charles Alexander DE
Xavier Carter WR
Mit Cole TE
Harry Coleman LB
Glenn Dorsey DT
Early Doucet WR
Marlon Favorite DT
Lavelle Hawkins ATH
Brett Helms OL
Jacob Hester RB
Max Holmes OL
Jeffrey Jack DB
Chevis Jackson WR
Tyson Jackson DE
Herman Johnson OL
Quinn Johnson LB
Tremaine Johnson DE
E.J. Kuale LB
Ryan Miller OL
Luke Sanders LB
Craig Steltz DB
Mario Stevenson DB
Matt Stoltz LB
Curtis Taylor DB
Tim Washington DE
Claude Wroten DT
LINK
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:14 am to biglego
I'd love Miles at Michigan. In college football, it is passion and emotion that wins you games, not x and o smarts.
x and o coaches are in the FCS making 75k a year.
x and o coaches are in the FCS making 75k a year.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:17 am to ShermanTxTiger
Right. People act like miles inherited this top 5 program. Miles inherited a 3 loss program that had won 10 games 3 times in over 40 years.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:59 am to JaxTiger10
Most of the Miles' bashers here are band geeks. They hide behind a message board and spew ignorance.
You guys bashing Miles need to list your football resumes. You might have a little more credibility.
You guys bashing Miles need to list your football resumes. You might have a little more credibility.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 5:00 am
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:23 am to Bernie Moore
quote:
list your football resumes. You might have a little more credibility.
Almost won state my senior year but coach didn't put me in
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:50 am to drizztiger
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Yes, he only won the NC the year before he left LSU
ok. So you're arguing that he's not a better coach at Bama than he was at LSU? It's pretty clear. Saban is the best coach in the country at Bama. He wasn't the best coach in the country at LSU though. No one at that time was saying such a thing. So stop with the revisionist history
Posted on 12/14/14 at 8:15 am to danfraz
A. This is an original and meaningful thread.
B. This is a redundant and meaningless thread.
Vote your conscience.
B. This is a redundant and meaningless thread.
Vote your conscience.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 10:21 am to Monticello
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1990's LSU and modern LSU are worlds apart. That's like comparing 1970's Florida to 1990's Florida. LSU is a top 5 program.
That's very kind of you to say, but ..... no.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:05 am to monsterballads
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Les Miles from an outsider quote: I'm saying Saban didn't recruit shite in 2004. are you out of your mind? Charles Alexander DE Xavier Carter WR Mit Cole TE Harry Coleman LB Glenn Dorsey DT Early Doucet WR Marlon Favorite DT Lavelle Hawkins ATH Brett Helms OL Jacob Hester RB Max Holmes OL Jeffrey Jack DB Chevis Jackson WR Tyson Jackson DE Herman Johnson OL Quinn Johnson LB Tremaine Johnson DE E.J. Kuale LB Ryan Miller OL Luke Sanders LB Craig Steltz DB Mario Stevenson DB Matt Stoltz LB Curtis Taylor DB Tim Washington DE Claude Wroten DT LINK
Jesus dude. Paint chips are bad for you. He was obviously talking about the 2005 SIGNING class, which would have been recruited, primarily, in 2004. Which is why there were only 8 commits to that class when saban left. Cause he didn't recruit shite in 2004.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:12 am to CRAZY 4 LSU
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I mean sure he is he has progressed through his career, but he would have had the same or similar progression if he had stayed at LSU.
naw
i love sabes, but he came back as a better coach after 2 years in the NFL. his defensive philosophy even changed
the most underrated aspect of saban's development was on offense. he stopped sitting on leads and played more aggressive on offense. one of his major downfalls at LSU was sitting on leads
also, one big problem in 2004 was that he refused to adapt on defense. he bought into his 2003 hype with his blitzing and relied on it way too much. teams would literally just start throwing up prayers to WRs in 1-on-1 to combat the same defense and it bit us a few games
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:17 am to supatigah
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Miles never gets credit for being a great program CEO
That is my biggest fear about him leaving is hiring the guy that can't run an elite program with everything that involves
yeah
as everyone knows, i'm not the biggest miles fan, but i am scared of him leaving at this point
he's not the best (by far) but he's much better than average. he does some things very, very well (like be the CEO, recruit, etc). he really is finding a good offensive identity to have a solid, variable offense away from potentially leaving an all-time great resume based on his time at LSU
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:21 am to danfraz
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It's pretty clear. Saban is the best coach in the country at Bama. He wasn't the best coach in the country at LSU though. No one at that time was saying such a thing. So stop with the revisionist history
well saban got better after the NFL, but if he got to reap the rewards of the rosters he built 2005-2007, he'd be considered at the top with that resume. the revisionist history is forgetting how fricking STACKED those LSU teams were
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:47 am to warcry
Dinardo doesn't deserve to be mentioned with Hallman.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:49 am to warcry
Counterpoints:
1) Miles can definitely recruit, he seems however to have issues developing talent at critical positions which offsets some of his recruiting gains.
2) Before Miles we had Saban, and before that we had DiNardo who had a consistent 3-year run before poor coordinator hires detailed him. Remember Saban had loads of talent that Gerry recruited. You have to go back to Hallman when we really sucked and that was because we skimped on spending the money to get a top coach. That isn't a problem anymore, because towards the end of the 90s, LSU has started spending the money to be elite.
3) If his players love him so much why don't they stay and stop leaving en masse, staying would help "their beloved" coach win and increase his prestige.
1) Miles can definitely recruit, he seems however to have issues developing talent at critical positions which offsets some of his recruiting gains.
2) Before Miles we had Saban, and before that we had DiNardo who had a consistent 3-year run before poor coordinator hires detailed him. Remember Saban had loads of talent that Gerry recruited. You have to go back to Hallman when we really sucked and that was because we skimped on spending the money to get a top coach. That isn't a problem anymore, because towards the end of the 90s, LSU has started spending the money to be elite.
3) If his players love him so much why don't they stay and stop leaving en masse, staying would help "their beloved" coach win and increase his prestige.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:06 pm to warcry
OP is probably also posting on UGA boards telling them how good they have it with Richt.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:27 pm to SwaggerCopter
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LSU had the best coach in the country.
Who didn't want to be here and was flirting with the NFL every year.
The love affair for a coach who kicked us in the nuts for a Christmas gift when leaving and made fun of our fans when he came back to college is sick to the point of making me throw up.
When Saban left LSU was out of the SEC race in October, had nine wins, and was barely a top 20 team. No way in the world was Saban seen as the best coach in the country. More delusion by the retards here.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:45 pm to LSU Groupee
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Who didn't want to be here and was flirting with the NFL every year.
We hear rumors of Miles doing this with Michigan, Arkansas.... Does Miles want to be here?
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:45 pm to monsterballads
you're dumbPosted on 12/14/14 at 12:55 pm to warcry
Remember where you were before Gus. 
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