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re: Kevin Sumlin has 85% approval rating on volnation.com poll
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
i see him much like les miles, he did great with the team he came into, but then was just average after that. at least with les he recruited so well the talent often overcame his shortcomings as a coach and often won in spite of his poor game day decisions and lack of coaching quite often.
not to say he isnt a good coach, just that he "may" not be a guy to come in and right away make your team a playoff contender but he can give you winning records every year and thats what they need right now.
not all coaches are great recruiters and not all great recruiters are great coaches (miles) so its hard to get both in one package and sometimes teams need to accept reality they arent going to hire themselves into a national championship.
i see UT as a dumpster fire and right now they need stability and sumlin can be a good to above average coach right away and with the right recruits compete again for SEC CG
not to say he isnt a good coach, just that he "may" not be a guy to come in and right away make your team a playoff contender but he can give you winning records every year and thats what they need right now.
not all coaches are great recruiters and not all great recruiters are great coaches (miles) so its hard to get both in one package and sometimes teams need to accept reality they arent going to hire themselves into a national championship.
i see UT as a dumpster fire and right now they need stability and sumlin can be a good to above average coach right away and with the right recruits compete again for SEC CG
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:10 pm to keakar
Miles is 100 times the coach sumlin is 
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Why have an AD? Just hire your next coach based on internet polls.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:18 pm to TH03
quote:
Miles is 100 times the coach sumlin is
correct.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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He failed to materially make A&M better
I would say he did over his 2 predecessors Much better overal and
Dennis Franchione 5 years
0-3 in bowls
Never Ranked
2 losing seasons
Overall - 32–28
Big12 - 19–21
Mike Sherman 4 years
1-2 in bowls
Ranked 1 year Coaches-21 AP-19
2 losing seasons
Overall - 25–25
Big12 - 15–18
Kevin Sumlin 6 year(in the toughest division of the toughest conference most of those years)
3-2 in bowls and team likely goes to a bowl this year
Ranked twice Coaches-5 & 18 AP-5 & 18
6 Winning seasons
Overall - 51–26
SEC - 25–23
He was clearly trending down, however.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
they can offer him $2M\year and some of that mountain whisky
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Greg Schaino >>>>>>>> sumlin
LOL Tennessee
LOL Tennessee
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:48 pm to burdman
He would probably do better in the east and at least no where to go but up for Tenn.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 2:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Florida just hired a guy that went 14-11 in the last two seasons. Sumlin went 15-10.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why? He failed to materially make A&M better
UT doesn't play LSU every year
And Sumlin has shown he can beat Bama
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:05 pm to bwallcubfan
I think Sumlin would kill it at UT. He could hit the ground running there. He can recruit and knows the SEC landscape well. If UT can show some patience, maybe 3 yrs to build up that roster again, Sumlin will have them competing for the East.JMO
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Who cares what Volnation thinks.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:15 pm to texastigerr
Trading bama, LSU, and auburn for bama, UGA, and UF. Whew buddy.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why? He failed to materially make A&M better
He is going to the East and their previous coach was Butch Jones. Sumlin is a massive upgrade.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 3:55 pm to mdomingue
Mike Sherman was 0-2 on bowls. He was fired before the Northwestern game.
But, he tied for the Big 12 South title in 2010.
But, he tied for the Big 12 South title in 2010.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:05 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I'd rather have Miles coach my team than KS.
At least LSU was a tough and physical football team.
At least LSU was a tough and physical football team.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Mike Sherman was 0-2 on bowls. He was fired before the Northwestern game.
Did not realize that.
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But, he tied for the Big 12 South title in 2010.
Technically but OU actually played in the conference championship game. It was also his only winning season there, 2 losing and one .500 season.
Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:21 pm to Tigers0891
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He was 25-23 in conference
If you take out the Manziel years and only look at the last four years he's 15-17 in conference.
2014 - 5-0 (2-0) start = 3-5 (1-5) finish
2015 - 5-0 (2-0) start = 3-5 (2-4) finish
2016 - 6-0 (4-0) start = 2-5 (0-4) finish
2017 - 4-1 (2-0) start = 4-3 (2-4) finish
Most of those years A&M was probably the worst team in the SEC by the end of the year.
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 11/30/17 at 4:25 pm to PortCityTiger24
I've heard Sumlin and Butch are friends, but idk to what degree. Probably enough for Kevin to ask him about the AD, admin & boosters environment there.
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