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re: Just a reminder Steve Ensminger IS our OC...we AREN’T looking for one
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:45 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:45 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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After winning the Broyles award Brady said in his acceptance speech that Ensminger should be the person winning the award as opposed to him.
Obviously the people voting on the award felt otherwise.
People say things because it's the nice thing to say. You need to look less at what people say and more what they do. The NFL and CFB types looking for the next bright offensive mind pursued Brady. No one's trying to hire Ensminger.
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:45 am to Slim
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We need a real OC, Ensminger helped us win the NC, but he really isn’t a qualified OC
You are ridiculously dumb. After Ensminger recommended to ED O to hire Brady, Brady brought with him the Saint's offense to LSU, but nonetheless, it was Ensminger that knew how to convert that Saints' offense to work for college football.
As that new LSU playbook was a collaboration between Brady and Ensminger, with feedback from Joe Burrow. As Ensminger had the final say on everything that went into that playbook. If he didn't like it, it didn't get put in that playbook.
Furthermore, Ensminger was also the primary LSU playcaller as well.
Hence, the loss of Brady is not nearly as big of a deal low-information people like you are trying to make it out to be. Go fly a kite before you hurt yourself or someone.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:54 am to Lester Earl
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This team wins 7 games next year if Ensminger is the OC
Sure low-information dumb ignoramuses like you are going to blame Ensminger when the LSU offense inevitably takes a hit next season due to the loss of the most prolific QB in NCAA college football history.
Nonetheless, regardless of your immense stupidity, Ensminger deserves as much credit as Brady and Burrow for putting that new LSU offensive playbook together. As nothing got put into that new LSU playbook if Ensminger didn't like it. As he was the man who had the full authority to say yay or nay. Furthermore, he is also LSU's primary playcaller.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:25 am to Goldrush25
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Obviously the people voting on the award felt otherwise.
Obviously, cause they were as stupid as you.
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People say things because it's the nice thing to say. You need to look less at what people say and more what they do. The NFL and CFB types looking for the next bright offensive mind pursued Brady. No one's trying to hire Ensminger.
Obviously, no one is pursuing Steve Ensminger cause they all know that he is dedicated to LSU and only LSU and they also know he is 61 years old and not looking to go anywhere.
In any event, I heard Joe Burrow say countless times that the new LSU offensive playbook was a collaboration between Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger, with feedback from Joe Burrow. As Joe Burrow said that Steve Ensminger as the OC had the full authority to decide specifically what went into that new playbook and what did not go into that new playbook.
As upon Steve Ensminger's recommendation, Ed O hired Joe Brady, and Joe Brady brought with him the Saints' offense.
However, it was Steve Ensminger that new how to convert that Saint's offense to work for college football. Therefore, it was a collaboration between Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger, with feedback from Joe Burrow and exactly what Joe Burrow said it was countless times.
Not to mention that Steve Ensminger is also the primary playcaller.
Hence, the loss of Joe Brady isn't nearly the gigantic loss that low-information people like you are trying to make it out to be. Relax and stop blowing it way out of proportion to reality.
Now if LSU had lost the playbook when Joe Brady left LSU, then that would indeed have been a major blow. But the new LSU offensive playbook that Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger collaboratively created is still the property of LSU's Football Operations.
Now, Ed O needs to hire someone to replace Joe Brady who besides his involvement in the creation with Steve Ensminger of LSU's new offensive playbook, was also the Passing Game Coordinator and I think the main candidate currently is Jorge Munoz, who has previous experience as being a wide receiver coach, Passing Game Coordinator, QB coach, and OC. Indeed, like Steve Ensminger, Munoz is also a former college QB.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:59 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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Actually, you're wrong. When Brady came to LSU after Ensminger recommended to Ed O to hire him, he brought with him the Saint's offense and some really new and innovative techniques for coaching and training wide receivers.
However, with respect to the new LSU offensive playbook, it was a cooperative collaboration between Brady and Ensminger, as Ensminger was the one who knew how to convert the Saints' offense so it could work in the college game.
As that new offense was a collaboration between Brady and Ensminger, with feedback from Joe Burrow. While Ensminger as the OC had the full authority to say yay or nay with respect to everything that went into that new LSU offensive playbook.
Furthermore, Ensminger was also the primary playcaller.
Finally, all of those new and innovative techniques that Brady brought with him to coach and train wide receivers will remain at LSU for as long as they remain useful.
Hence, losing Brady is not this really big deal like so many ill-informed people are trying to make it out to be.
come on man. You're towing the company line You can simply listen to how many times O credited Brady throughout the season to understand the impact he had on this offense. I wish you were right, but you're obviously not.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:09 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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LSU Bayou Tiger
You sound SO much like space cowboy. It's uncanny
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:15 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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Go fly a kite before you hurt yourself or someone.
Hi Space Cowboy
Posted on 1/20/20 at 3:17 am to Nix to Twillie
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Hi Space Cowboy
I mean, could it BE more obvious?
I'm surprised he stayed away this long
Posted on 1/20/20 at 6:24 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
BRO stop acting like an LSU bot and regurgitsting the narrative you hear.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:12 am to Drayton80
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pray that Orgeron isn't foolish enough to go back to zero points against Bama.
What makes you think that Orgeron is foolish or would be foolish?
He’s the one who created this 15-0 season.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:53 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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Sure low-information dumb ignoramuses like you are going to blame Ensminger
Only if he’s the OC & playcaller. Because we know what his offenses look like and it’s not good. Won’t be hard to understand
Posted on 1/20/20 at 7:58 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
Seems like everybody but you sees that Brady was the brain trust that turned this offense around. He regularly installed new plays by watching weekly scoring plays from the NFL. He and E are both being respectful about their roles. While E has the actual college game experience, he was clueless as to how to develop a modern offense. Enter Brady. Exit a National Championship. Everyone knew how important it was to keep Brady, that’s why his contract was being restructured and we were going to pay the man. We simply got out bid and Brady was given the chance of a lifetime. It’s a no brainer for him. What we do next is vital.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:15 am to RedSoloSpitCup
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They're about to have to fight like crazy to keep from dropping behind Ole Piss and Moo St. Not to mention Dumbo Fisher.
Yeah, tell yourself this lil man. It'll make you feel better after getting beat by Clemson, LSU and Auburn in the same year.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:20 am to JackVincennes
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Yeah, tell yourself this lil man. It'll make you feel better after getting beat by Clemson, LSU and Auburn in the same year
It really doesn't, but what's gonna happen when you realize LSU is back in Les Miles hell in the next few years?
Win 8-9 games, occasionally 10. Not enough to make you happy but too many to fire the guy who's keeping you from getting better.
2019 was the anomaly for both LSU and Bama. Both will correct in 2020 and beyond.
We just have to find a way to pull an RBG on BDN and keep him alive and coaching.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:40 am to tigereye58
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Just a reminder Steve Ensminger IS our OC...we AREN’T looking for one
If this was a good thing that we shouldn't be worried about, we should have never needed Joe Brady in the fist place.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 8:50 am to RedSoloSpitCup
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It really doesn't, but what's gonna happen when you realize LSU is back in Les Miles hell in the next few years?
Win 8-9 games, occasionally 10. Not enough to make you happy but too many to fire the guy who's keeping you from getting better.
Certainly that is possible. However, the difference between O and Les is that Les absolutely refused to adapt even though it was clear what he was doing wasn't quite good enough. O hasn't been afraid to make changes when he feels they are necessary.
Does any reasonable LSU fan expect a repeat of 2019 next season? Of course not. But it's not as if recruiting has fallen off a cliff and this was just one magical year where a ton of talent all coalesced. LSU is still recruiting well under O. And as long as the talent is there, good coaches can get them in the right spots.
O may never make another playoff appearance at LSU. But I'm certain it won't be because he flat out refused to make changes when necessary. THAT was the reason for LSU's long stay in good football purgatory
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:02 am to Lester Earl
Ensminger is master of running the same exact run play every time you go "tempo". That changed this season. Wonder why.
I love the man for his passion and selflessness at lsu. But O needs to hire the next Joe Brady and hand him the keys
I love the man for his passion and selflessness at lsu. But O needs to hire the next Joe Brady and hand him the keys
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:06 am to Tiger Ryno
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Ensminger is master of running the same exact run play every time you go "tempo". That changed this season. Wonder why.
Everything changed really
Ensminger by nature is not aggressive. He passes on passing downs and runs on run downs. He plays it safe with a lead, among other things.
Read joe Brady interviews. They want to pass pass pass in red zone. No running. Does that sound like Ensminger??
frick no Do people realize LSU took like 2 snaps all year from under center? This was a wide open, aggressive offense that was unpredictable.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:07 am to LSU Bayou Tiger
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it was Ensminger that knew how to convert that Saints' offense to work for college football.
Correct, SE is great and did a ton of heavy lifting Monday-Friday.
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As that new LSU playbook was a collaboration between Brady and Ensminger, with feedback from Joe Burrow
Correct
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Furthermore, Ensminger was also the primary LSU playcaller as well.
Wrong, JB was calling the majority of plays by mid September. SE was in a mentor roll and controlling tempo.
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Hence, the loss of Brady is not nearly as big of a deal low-information people like you are trying to make it out to be
yikes!
I'm not wanting to shite on SE, I think he's great. But you are ignoring his past failures as an OC at multiple locations and ignoring the playcalling in 2018. After the first series of scripted plays...it got very questionable. I'm not discrediting his experience on coaching or the grind Monday-Friday planning...but his game day play calling didn't go from questionable to spectacular bc of a new scheme. Might want to look in the mirror on calling people "low-information people".
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Now if LSU had lost the playbook when Joe Brady left LSU, then that would indeed have been a major blow. But the new LSU offensive playbook that Joe Brady and Steve Ensminger collaboratively created is still the property of LSU's Football Operations.
No one has a concern about the Playbook or scheme being gone...its the playcalling.
No one is saying SE isn't/wasn't important in the offensive change at LSU. The concern is playcalling. Once again, SE is great at the Mon-Fri grind, the heavy lifting...but he's not great at playcalling.
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Now, Ed O needs to hire someone to replace Joe Brady
Why? If the collaboration between Brady/SE on implementing the offense is over...its still at "the property of LSU's Football Operations", then why replace brady? You just laid out the case that SE did damn near everything. Brady just brought a new offense, collaborated with SE to implement and SE took over after that.
Bc deep down you know the play calling is a big concern with Brady gone. Don't give me the "everyone said SE was calling the majority", we all know who was calling.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/20/20 at 9:11 am to Lester Earl
Got to replace Brady’s impact with the wr’s too
Went from Mickey and Jerry Sullivan to Brady basically doing it all plus installing the new concepts.
Went from Mickey and Jerry Sullivan to Brady basically doing it all plus installing the new concepts.
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