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Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:46 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:46 am to
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The offense was practically the same.
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LSU Tigers football team looked different.

There were rarely snaps under center. There were no fullbacks and sometimes there were even no running backs. There were—gulp—no huddles. There were as many as five receivers on the field. There were crossing routes and verticals. There were deep ins and deep outs. There was, unfathomably, the spread offense.
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The personnel use has dramatically changed, too. LSU is using more wide receivers and fewer tight ends. The Tigers operated from formations with three or more receivers on all but two plays through the first two weeks. In Miles’s last five years, just one-fifth of the Tigers’ snaps were from a formation with three or more receivers.

“I wish I could have had a chance to broadcast [the new] offense,” laughs Jim Hawthorne, who spent 36 years as LSU’s radio play-by-play voice and is now retired. “Fans I know have said, ‘Wow! That’s the real deal!’ And then they say, ‘What if we had been running this offense with those two receivers, Odell and Jarvis?’”
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...the acquisition of a transfer quarterback from Ohio State, Joe Burrow, and a gutsy decision by Orgeron to hire a 29-year-old, low-level NFL staffer to overhaul an offense that was consistently winning double-digit games every year.

That coach, Joe Brady, the team’s passing game coordinator and receivers coach, does not lack in confidence when asked about the risk it took to hire him. “If you ask me, I think it was a pretty damn good decision,” says Brady, who was hired away from the Saints last January. “It might be something that could rub people the wrong way, and they could sit there and say, ‘Why this or that?’ But Coach had a clear-cut vision of what he was looking for. We were looking for the exact same thing. Our visions matched.”
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In January, as winter workouts began at LSU, offensive coordinator Steve Ensminger walked into the quarterback meeting room, distributed a new playbook and told his players, “We’re going to the spread, baby!”

The change was long overdue


Not the same offense. Not close.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:54 am to
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The offense was practically the same.


Not even frickin remotely close


RPO’ doubled

Shotgun went from 67% to 96%

Full back usage went from 22% to .6% (yes that’s a decimal)

LSU used 6 & 7 man protection over 309 plays in 2018 to 85x in 2019


Oh yea, and very simply, the best players played and never left the field


An elated Burrow said, “now this is the offense I grew up playing in, that in m comfortable in. . .”

Wow, go figure. Good results followed
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23235 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:11 am to
Joe Brady was a tactical machine. Any video that showed inside the offense always had Brady finding Waldo and attacking the weakest link on D. If an injured occurred the immediate approach was to attack the backup.

I want him to come home.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:12 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:14 am to
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Players like jamarr chase don’t get pulled out the the game after big plays

Brossette just doesn’t play because he is a Sr

Foster Moreau looks like the nfl player that he should have been

shite, Dee Anderson’s career may go totally different without Ensminger stunting everything he touched



You act like all those were ensminger's decisions.

Joe brady's offense is actually very repetitive and easy to figure out. He just had elite players who were able to win.

I think joe brady is a great offensive coach and i would take him back at lsu but the guy isn't a miracle worker.

He brought some concepts that hadn't been run at lsu and had the absolute perfect qb and receivers to run them.


Oh and at you blaming emsminger for dee Anderson's career. That kid couldn't get out of his own way.

Why didn't he produce at okie state?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:14 am to
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If an injured occurred the immediate approach was to attack the backup.


So he is like any decent offensive coordinator. Cool
Posted by IOU
Member since Apr 2020
374 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:20 am to
Home? You are delusional. I'll leave this for your viewing pleasure. The FACTS about LSU's 2019 season and Joe Brady's role.
LINK

No way this guy hires Brady to be OC.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:24 am to
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Joe brady doesn't have 2019 results with that 2018 team.


Of course not, but Joe burrow throws 35tds instead of 16td lol
We were 2 FGs shy of 12-1. Could the 2018 team have put up 30 points on Bama, with the 2019 playbook in Tiger Stadium? Maybe not, especially with Burrow hurt that game. But it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:35 am to
The play calling in the A&M overtime game was terrible, too. Ensminger’s paws were all over that mess
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:38 am to
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You act like all those were ensminger's decisions.


He was the offensive coordinator. He has full autonomy to do whatever he wants.


You want to give him all the credit for everything but no blame for anything bad. To think he could not control playing the best players is ignorant, even for you.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23235 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:43 am to
Lest we mention personnel groupings. Nothing was more exhilarating than consistently keeping the same 11 on the field and challenging the defense without substitutions.

Consistency and confidence grew each week with simple philosophies.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:46 am to
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Joe brady's offense is actually very repetitive and easy to figure out


Many college offenses are
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:49 am to
It's about the jimmjes and Joe's not the X's and O's.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:07 am to
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Joe brady's offense is actually very repetitive and easy to figure out.


Then shite, I hate to see what you think of Ensmingers lol
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:40 pm to
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Not even frickin remotely close


I was talking personnel.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 6:30 am to
I think it's sad you can't credit E when everybody else around LSU football that season has. Clearly you know more than Burrow and his father.

2018 was Burrow's first year starting. Chase and Marshall were both true freshmen. Jefferson was only a soph. Jonathan Giles was heavily pumped by O and a complete bust. Brossette was a senior starting over CEH.

The line was far more seasoned in 2019, because everybody became Seniors/Juniors. They even got Ed Ingram back and he had to take on a reserve role. 2018 probably could have used an Ingram starting.

So one assistant coach is responsible for it all huh? Not that the team was far more experienced and talented from one year to the next. A QB can't make a huge jump from first year starting to his next, huh? All the positions from QB to line to WRs were all more seasoned college players. Even got Moss back.

So no chance Brady as an assistant coach worked well with Ensminger as the OC? None huh? His detail with the WRs wasn't a huge boost for the better of the offense?


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@CoachBurrow
One of my favorite pictures . True love between player and coach . What Coach E. did for Joe was always underestimated . Joe and the Burrow family know how much he meant to Joe . He coached Joe to a Heisman trophy and LSU to a National Championship. Enough said . Thanks Coach .


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Brady said after winning the Broyles Award, grasping the incorrect public perceptions as to who ran the 2019 offense. “I’m only at LSU because of Steve Ensminger. I’ll never forget that.”


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Joe Burrow praised "Coach E" throughout his Heisman speech, stirring up nationally televised emotions within the Bayou legend sitting before his greatest apprentice:

"You guys believed in me after I broke my hand...when I didn't know if I could still play or not....thank you," Joe's voice crumbling into tearful reckoning at the end.


Still don't want to give this man credit for coaching up Burrow? Even if it took him a second season to improve?

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Intent, hell-bent and ready to make a dent, Ensminger went full Passenger 57 on Georgia, Oklahoma and Clemson, dialing up his most in your face, boot to the throat play calling in his quest for football eternity.

Even Steve couldn't back down from being a little ambitious in this championship moment...he had to take over...this was his offense....these were the games, the team and the quarterback of his dreams...he'd waited all his life for those moments.

In fact, the pair grew increasingly silent (or telepathic) toward each other upstairs in the booth following December's awards ceremony, with Brady even heading to the sidelines far more than usual vs Oklahoma (as can be seen through a multitude of photographic evidence. Meanwhile, throughout the Clemson game, Brady and Mangus can be seen looking left out with little to do other than talk to Joe Burrow, silently staring over at an on-fire Steve Ensminger running the show like Mick Jagger's lovechild with Mike Martz circa '99...Brady and Mangus wondering "just how is he doing this???").




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Joe would return from the field and immediately talk to Jorge Munoz or Joe Brady about what he saw and felt on the previous drive, meanwhile Ensminger took in the information or adjustments and made preparations for the next series, talking to Joe when he felt like it:


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Ensminger taught Brady how a top-level coach works, how you recruit the best young men in the country; Steve educated the former Penn State GA on the ins and outs of installing an offense, which plays to call (and when), the nuances of every young man on the roster, and the importance of his system's unorthodox pre-snap movements (affording time and space for skill position players as well as supplying quarterbacks enough distance from the line of scrimmage);


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Together, Ensminger and Brady became LSU's own Murtaugh and Riggs:

Maximizing Joe Burrow's brilliance became a crusade between the two offensive impresarios and this nonstop quest for success pingponged back and forth from The East Coast Playboy to his elder (not elderly).

They went through every detail: over the last decade, dropped passes killed the Tigers and 2018 was a horrible year for drops at LSU. We witnessed the first year of the Burrow / Ensminger offense leaving many touchdowns or big plays on the field following uncharacteristic lapses from our studs out wide.

How would they curb this issue?

Unorthodox drills such as the swinging door, the goggles...or...just pure volume:

Ensminger and Joe Brady envisioned a "Summer of 10,000 Catches", delivering this objective to Mickey Joseph's crew of centurion receivers during the 2019 off-season. Of course, Joseph's WR corps passed the test with flying colors, much of the improvement down to the Marrero native's own big time head coaching potential as well.


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With or without Joe Brady, the 2019 offense was headed in the right direction, dropping 40+ points in the final 3 games, Mickey Joseph, Joe Burrow, Steve Ensminger, the receivers, Thaddeus Moss's return from injury, the emergence of Clyde Edwards-Helaire, James Cregg's offensive line becoming a titanic blockbusting force...all of these elements collided and aligned into the historic juggernaut we (including you Saban) will never forget....Joe Brady became the savvy, smart interior decorator who could show Ensminger and Joseph a thing or two about fashion sensibilities.


And I say all that to say I would gladly take Joe Brady as OC at LSU. I believe he has the ability to be special.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 6:41 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33585 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:16 am to
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With or without Joe Brady, the 2019 offense was headed in the right direction, dropping 40+ points in the final 3 games, Mickey Joseph, Joe Burrow, Steve Ensminger, the receivers, Thaddeus Moss's return from injury, the emergence of Clyde Edwards-Helaire, James Cregg's offensive line becoming a titanic blockbusting force.


How could that be true?

Lester earl says that isn't true. Players and coaches don't gel over time.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:25 am to
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think it's sad you can't credit E when everybody else around LSU football that season has. Clearly you know more than Burrow and his father.


This is you & the media not being about to discern authenticity. Everyone loves & adores Steve Ensminger. A man that is humble & well liked. A man that “accepted” help (he got demoted) with the offense.

So what do you think they are going to say when asked about the man? shite, joe burrow thought Coach O should get a lifetime contract. Do you really believe he thought that deep down?

Of course they will say all the right things about Ensminger. He turned into the biggest charity case on campus, and I can tell you that he hated every minute of that spotlight.

The fact of the matter is, going into 2019, they did not think the offense was going in the direction it should with just him.

Going into 2020 without Brady, they thought the same thing. That he could not handle the offense on his own. Scott Linehan was the highest paid non coordinators(he made as much as Ensminger) in college football. He was terrible, but that is how much lack of confidence they had in Ensminger


You can pretend everything is sunshine & rainbows if you want, sorry, I’m programmed for the truth. Coach speak is very easy to sort through, especially when you read people for a living like I do.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:26 am to
Do you want to crunch numbers chalky? I doubt it, but I can for you if you want

Imagine thinking throwing 10tds in 4 games is some special standard after watching what a real coach did in 2019 lmao
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:51 am to
We played 2 G5 teams in the final 3 games and we play 7 OT va A&M

The offense scored 24 points in regulation.

Also, Joe Burrow is the best QB of all time, but I’m glad he’s not out AD

Dude endorsed a lifetime contract for O and basically got Munoz a PGC job at Baylor which lasted all of 1 year.

He also said before the 2019 season they gave him a completely new playbook.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33585 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 3:39 pm to
No, no. The only thing that changed was our offense. No doubt in my mind he could run it. There's no way in my mind last year I felt like, because of our personnel and everything else, that we could do what we're doing this year. We came in spring, we did it.



How much of this year's success is about how well he's played?
STEVE ENSMINGER: It's him. It really is. It's him. It's his understanding of the game. I've said this before. I don't know if we could have run this offense last year. If you look at us last year, we wasn't as good up front. We wasn't a five-man protection. We had to leave the tight end to chip, had to lead the running backs into chip. I just didn't think we could have run this offense last year.
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