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re: Jim Harbaugh and Butch Jones not interested in Michigan

Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:01 pm to
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What would be Harbaugh's obligation to the new team if he is traded? Couldn't he still walk?


They probably would not trade him without an extension and buyout clause.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:07 pm to
Miles to Michigan.

Rich Rod to LSU.

Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:20 pm to
Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread (i.e., no time right now to scan 8 pages), but Brian over at mgoblog--arguably one of the best UM sites around--has a thought on Miles.

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ON LES MILES. That story also has a bit on Les Miles. It is correct that there's a great divide in the program alumni about Miles, but it also asserts that Michigan would avoid him because of the chance they get turned down humiliatingly. That would not happen. If Miles is offered the job he would come.

Personally, I'm not enthralled with a 61-year-old who's been the subject of an OTL episode about cutting players, coming off a meh year and possibly the downside. But he'd come. Assertions to the contrary are from the camp that doesn't like Miles because of the way he and Carr have butted heads over the years.
Posted by TIGRLEE
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:38 pm to
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Message Posted by dodgeviper I'm Ron Mexico, but don't tell anyone. ;)


That's twice you've been sniffed out.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 2:59 pm to
Miles to Michigan
Harbaugh to LSU
Posted by lurkr
Member since Jan 2008
12384 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:03 pm to
The big money boosters agree to back the contract of the head football coach, so they have a big say so about who is hired.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Personally, I'm not enthralled with a 61-year-old who's been the subject of an OTL episode about cutting players, coming off a meh year and possibly the downside.


If this is the worst he can say about Miles, that's not too bad.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:11 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!


You hearing Lloyd Carr does NOT want Les Miles?
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:13 pm to
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You hearing Lloyd Carr does NOT want Les Miles?



That's a revelation.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26153 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:14 pm to
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If this is the worst he can say about Miles, that's not too bad.


Especially considering he said this about Hoke:

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"This is not Brady Hoke's fault." Repeat 1000x. This is not Brady Hoke's fault. He seems like a nice enough dude. It seems unlikely he actively participated in the submarining of Rich Rodriguez. Unlike everyone else ever associated with the Michigan program with even the most thinly plausible of resumes, he actually wants to be the head coach here. So that's nice.

This is a stupid hire. It will always be as stupid hire and David Brandon just led the worst coaching search in the history of Michigan football. He managed to chase off half of an already iffy recruiting class, hired a Plan C coach on January 11th, probably ensured the transfer of the reigning Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year, and restricted his "national search" to people who'd spent at least five years in Ann Arbor. Michigan just gave themselves a year of USC-level scholarship reduction voluntarily.

What are the chances that the best available coach is a 52-year-old with a 47-50 career record and no experience as a coordinator? Why weren't a half-dozen coordinators with time and results on their side given the opportunity to interview? Why did Brandon waste time with Les Miles, a guy on the downside who may not have even gotten a serious offer? After learning a hard lesson about program continuity with the last hire why did Michigan hire a guy who professes to hate the spread 'n' shred a day after two spread teams played for the national title?

I'd rather have Rich Rodriguez entering year four with a new defensive staff than this, a total capitulation. Does anyone remember Tressel's record against Lloyd Carr? 5-1. Change was necessary. It didn't work, but that doesn't mean you go back to the stuff that required change.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Harbaugh to LSU



borderline impossible
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:14 pm to
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dr smartass phd


you have the floor.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17050 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:15 pm to
Why does Lloyd Carr carry so much weight?
Posted by doghouse_4x4
Tidewater, Va.
Member since Dec 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Why does Lloyd Carr carry so much weight?



Because Michigan still lives in the dark ages.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26153 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:17 pm to
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Why does Lloyd Carr carry so much weight?


Because it just makes good business sense to let the guy you ran out of town for being out of touch and the game passing him by have minimally bridled power over the future direction of your athletic department.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Why does Lloyd Carr carry so much weight?


He's got his power base in the athletic dept. The benevolent dictator, so to speak. If they let him get involved in the hiring process again, it will be another 4 yr shite show.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7954 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:21 pm to
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He's got his power base in the athletic dept. The benevolent dictator, so to speak. If they let him get involved in the hiring process again, it will be another 4 yr shite show.


He doesn't like Miles personally? or just thinks he is an average coach? Seems like Miles would be a good fit up there with the Bo crowd.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:30 pm to
It's personal
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:50 pm to
The anti-Les sentiment has nothing to do with Les potentially embarrassing the program. That's absurd. The problem is the old Lloyd Carr loyalists. Carr isn't a Les fan. It's personal and it's asinine. But it's there.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28440 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:52 pm to
Just google miles Gary moeller
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