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Is Alleva the worst AD in history at managing PR?

Posted on 11/17/16 at 7:31 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 7:31 am
Put aside his completely disastrous handling of the Duke scandal. Forget about his ridiculous silence last year while ESPN mounted a campaign to keep Miles ruining whatever he was trying to do behind closed doors. Never mind how little he did to keep Florida from controlling the Hurricane situation in the court of public opinion.


Then Alleva makes what appeared to be a positive PR move by replacing Miles after the Auburn loss. Fans were immediately happy again there was a positive energy missing from the program since 1/9/12. Great.


But now for the long game. After four impressive wins against mediocre teams at best, with two more likely to follow, LSU has likely stumbled arse backwards into a Sugar Bowl birth with an interim HC that the local and national media is doing everything they can to force into a permanent position without allowing one of the top jobs in the country to conduct a full nationwide search to be filled.

What Alleva has done was salvage one half of an already decided season, potentially at the cost of several years moving forward.

This is not even an argument for or against O or any other candidate.

What it is is pointing out that no matter who the coach is next season, we are right back where we've been the past decade where half of the fanbase will never be happy with the coach and will create a toxic atmosphere every time something bad happens screaming about how they were right all along and they saw this coming a mile away.

My goodness the lack of foresight by an Athletic Director of a premier institution in the world of college sports is just mind boggling.


No matter what happens with this search, I only hope that Joe Alleva is not the head of this athletic department much longer. How he even got this job after the way he sold his players and coaches down the river at Duke is beyond me.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 7:32 am to
He's let ESPN make us their bitch.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:38 am to
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No matter what happens with this search, I only hope that Joe Alleva is not the head of this athletic department much longer. How he even got this job after the way he sold his players and coaches down the river at Duke is beyond me.


Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 8:42 am to
How tf did LSU hire the Duke lacrosse guy? fricking terrible.
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:14 am to
last seasons debacle was not on him,his hand was forced
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:28 am to
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What it is is pointing out that no matter who the coach is next season, we are right back where we've been the past decade where half of the fanbase will never be happy with the coach and will create a toxic atmosphere every time something bad happens screaming about how they were right all along and they saw this coming a mile away.

This looks like a fan problem, not an Alleva problem.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:00 am to
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last seasons debacle was not on him,his hand was forced

It was a PR disaster long before his hand was forced, and his bungling of the situation very likely played a part in forcing his hand to begin with.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64587 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:05 am to
You sound uptight. Not really sure what you would want him to do differently.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
31007 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:26 am to
Well said. HOWEVER, this hire is critical and can bring the fan base back together with a knock out hire. He needs to be a business man and not a freaking reed waving in the face of public opinion. Get a backbone and don't give a shot what others think. Be an arse!
With that said, we have PR department. Where are they with all of this? What are they paid for?
Posted by bignic26
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2013
895 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:38 am to
I've seen it all now. Fans blaming the AD for a possible Sugar Bowl birth. Wow.

"We might go to a New Year's Six bowl game! Damn you Alleva!"
Posted by SCTmo
Des Moines
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:09 am to
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last seasons debacle was not on him,his hand was forced


Alleva leaked the Jimbo info to Rabalais in a poorly thought out attempt to garner public support. Rabalais ran with it and it COMPLETELY BACKFIRED on Joe.

If he had handled it like UGA, we'd have had Jimbo this year. Instead he tried to play games and it negatively affected this team.

OP is 100% on point. Alleva couldn't handle the optics of the UF delay earlier this year either; allowing Foley to get out ahead of him (even though for all intents and purposes Alleva was in the right).

The guy's PR is shite.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:10 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:12 am to
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I've seen it all now. Fans blaming the AD for a possible Sugar Bowl birth. Wow.

"We might go to a New Year's Six bowl game! Damn you Alleva!"



it never ceases to amaze me how little so many people are able to comprehend when reading a series of words and sentences.

The conclusions that people bring themselves to is truly fascinating
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
46174 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:14 am to
I mean, I'm not Alleva's biggest fan, but I'm not blaming our unintelligent coonass fans for wanting to hire another coonass permanently on him
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64587 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to
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I mean, I'm not Alleva's biggest fan, but I'm not blaming our unintelligent coonass fans for wanting to hire another coonass permanently on him


This. Again, I'd love to know what the OP would want him to do differently.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:38 am to
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This. Again, I'd love to know what the OP would want him to do differently.



Honestly, I just don't think Alleva understood how possible it was for this to turn into an O vs whoever else he wanted situation.

He failed to appreciate the possibility of making a move midseason and allowing months and months of speculation and people choosing sides could lead to another love hate split in the fanbase.

I'm still not sure what we gained by getting rid of Miles midseason other than a few weeks of feel good wins over shitty teams. Was that worth this divide when we were finally having a chance to get past all the posi/nega tiger bias with a brand new coach that everyone would have just been happy to welcome as a positive change?


We may not have broken insignificant records the way we did, but we very easily could have won the same games and played Bama tough if Miles was still here. And everyone still would have been thrilled if he was let go at the end of the season and announced Jimbo as the coach.

But, in my opinion, Alleva was still pissed that he lost the opportunity to do it last year and just wanted his moment to say frick all of you, especially Miles, and say see I was right!!

Well, good for him. He had that moment, we had a fun month and a half, and now we are staring at a ridiculous division between the fanbase over a national championship winning quarterback guru and the guy that Ole Miss fired for going winless in the SEC after three straight declining years because he talks like them and isn't Les Miles.

It is absurd, and could have easily been avoided if Alleva would have just swallowed his pride and had the foresight to see that by putting a person in position to claim the coaching position rather than letting his hiring process make the decision he completely lost control of the situation, yet again, and could do serious long term damage going forward with the fanbase split again the way it has been over Miles for so long.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:40 am to
Alleva hasn't done much wrong IMO and everything fans are mad at "alleva" for is just a bunch of stupid shite of how the fans are perceiving a situation.
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