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Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:21 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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I understand how it works. It's also a two-way street. The implication that Ole Miss can pay Wilson "that much more" really doesn't hold any weight because we only know what Wilson makes as a base salary at LSU. Presumably, he could be receiving a large amount of outside compensation that would put his actual salary far above what Ole Miss may offer.
presumably......you have no clue what we'll offer. And you'll also have no clue what LSU will be willing to counter with.
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Traditionally, however, assistant coaches receive nearly all their salary from the school and not a 501(k) organization like TAF or UMAA. Assistant coaches don't have the endorsement and media packages like head coaches, and this is generally where a lot of the "big" money comes from for coaches' salaries.
Agreed. But "most" being a key word.
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On a different note, if Tyrone Nix was actually getting paid $900,000 for his defenses at Ole Miss while Muschamp, Chavis, and Smart were all making less than that for their defenses at Texas, LSU, and Alabama, respectively, during that time, then Ole Miss is even dumber than I thought.
I don't disagree. Our fans were so hungry for winning after the Orgeron years that they gave far too much credit where it didn't belong. Boone caved into the "Give them whatever they want" pressure from most of our fans.
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I'd imagine LSU would match that figure and give him a bump in title of sorts, but anything above would be a different story.
then we all agree that we could come after him with good money and you'd have to match to keep him.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:21 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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You're right that Ole Miss has the money. But also, common economic sense kicks in at some point, too. There's a threshold I'd imagine Ole Miss knows it cannot justifiably pay Wilson as an unproven OC.
He'd be a glorified RC. Freeze calls plays.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:22 pm to memphisplaya
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You're still paying Nutt off. 700k plus a full staff is not happening
we have money. That isn't he problem.
And we don't have to pay the assistants severances if they find a job elsewhere.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:22 pm to memphisplaya
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I seriously doubt ole miss will be able to cough up that money with nutts buyout
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:23 pm to DCRebel
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He'd be a glorified RC. Freeze calls plays.
How is that a step up for Wilson?
He's basically that now with how our offense is
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:25 pm to memphisplaya
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How is that a step up for Wilson?
He's basically that now with how our offense is
Having "SEC OC" on your resume looks pretty good even if you really aren't.
See: Markuson's Co-OC title in 2010. He did nothing OC worthy then but we gave him that title.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:27 pm to memphisplaya
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How is that a step up for Wilson?
BECAUSE. HIS. SALARY. WILL. INCREASE. SIGNIFICANTLY.
How many more times do we have to explain this?
We are fully aware that the only things we can offer to him are money and the opportunity to be back with Hugh Freeze (the two were both on O's staff and the two apparently got along very well). We're not talking about his potential playcalling duties or the potential for him to be around a successful program. We're talking about MONEY.
ETA: And, again, I'm not saying this will happen. I'm just saying that the notion of such a move being just patently ridiculous because "HAHA UR OLD PISS LOL" is dumb.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:32 pm to pankReb
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presumably......you have no clue what we'll offer. And you'll also have no clue what LSU will be willing to counter with.
True, but based on market values and in keeping in line with other SEC schools, I'd imagine they wouldn't go higher than $750,000. Only Malzahn,Weis and Kragthorpe make that (or more) on the offensive side and they are much more "proven" coordinators.
Also, based on what LSU has paid or allegedly "offered" in years past, I can see them going up to $700,000 to keep Wilson at LSU. They (Alleva, TAF, and the BoS) know just how important Wilson is to LSU's success. They won't let him walk over an additionally $100,000-150,000.
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then we all agree that we could come after him with good money and you'd have to match to keep him.
Absolutely. He's getting a pay raise regardless. I just don't consider the draw to Ole Miss to be that much better than what's going on at LSU even if he could be an "OC" there.
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He'd be a glorified RC. Freeze calls plays.
Exactly my point. I'd imagine Wilson will know this. Thus, if it really comes down to being an OC in title only and the money is the same or comparable, I'd imagine he'll stay. Not taking away from the opportunity at Ole Miss in any way. Just really don't consider it a viable option, unless Ole Miss throws crazy money at him (like $900,000) or something that would make keeping him inexplicable if he were to be paid more than LSU's OC or DC.
LSU will match and probably exceed a reasonable offer and give him a relatable title. Wilson has stated on numerous occasions his preference for LSU and there are more things keeping him at LSU than the potential promotion at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:35 pm to DCRebel
The ole miss gig is too risky for Wilson. He's got it made at LSU: playing for Miles, plenty money, hometown of NOLA, locking down NOLA for the homestate, playing for NCs, family, etc etc. He's not leaving until he gets a really good gig and ole miss aint a really good gig. I dont care how much they offer, LSU will give him enough of a bump to keep him here until a better job opens, assuming he wants to move up to be an OC or HC.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:37 pm to Joe Joe Joe
If Miles and LSU want to keep Wilson money will not be the issue. Title will not be an issue (other than Head Coach)
Donors/boosters open up checkbooks when you win titles, something the Reb posters in this thread don't understand.
Not to say Wilson will not leave but it won't be $$
Donors/boosters open up checkbooks when you win titles, something the Reb posters in this thread don't understand.
Not to say Wilson will not leave but it won't be $$
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:42 pm to NoGeaux
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If Miles and LSU want to keep Wilson money will not be the issue
That's completely understandable and we aren't saying LSU won't match an offer.
DC and I are just plainly saying it's ridiculous to think we couldn't bring Wilson in on the basis of "We're LSU and ur Old Piss Lollerz".
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:46 pm to pankReb
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DC and I are just plainly saying it's ridiculous to think we couldn't bring Wilson in on the basis of "We're LSU and ur Old Piss Lollerz".
I completely agree with you there. Coaches, especially young and up-and-coming ones like Wilson, don't think about opportunities like fans do. Maybe he desperately wants to be an OC regardless of whether it's in title only. If that's the case, Ole Miss could very well get him.
At some point, he's going to leave but to many Tiger fans, and possibly Wilson himself, this appears to be a lateral move, at best, at the moment. If Freeze really gets it going and Ole Miss appears to be on better ground in 2 years and Wilson is again offered, then I don't think there's a question he would leave.
This post was edited on 12/6/11 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:51 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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At some point, he's going to leave but to many Tiger fans, and possibly Wilson himself, this appears to be a lateral move, at best, at the moment. If Freeze really gets it going and Ole Miss appears to be on better ground in 2 years and Wilson is again offered, then I don't think there's a question he would leave.
Completely agree. The only thing we could possibly have going for us is LSU could only match the money we offer and he really wants to work with Freeze again. Not saying I'm predicting this or anything though.
Now that we can agree on this.....can we also agree that Bama fans can GTH?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:56 pm to Joe Joe Joe
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Coaches, especially young and up-and-coming ones like Wilson, don't think about opportunities like fans do.
You finally said something right. Coaches don't think like fans do, despite the fact that the fans think/wished they did. If Wilson thinks taking a potential Ole Miss offer of OC will speed up his path to being a head coach, he will take it. If he thinks he will have better path to becoming a head coach by staying at LSU, he will do so. As to what he is thinking or even what is the right answer, none of us know.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:58 pm to dores97
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You finally said something right. Coaches don't think like fans do, despite the fact that the fans think/wished they did. If Wilson thinks taking a potential Ole Miss offer of OC will speed up his path to being a head coach, he will take it. If he thinks he will have better path to becoming a head coach by staying at LSU, he will do so. As to what he is thinking or even what is the right answer, none of us know.
tha frick? We've both been saying this all along.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 3:59 pm to pankReb
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You finally said something right.
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tha frick? We've both been saying this all along.
Seriously. Don't know where that came from.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:02 pm to Joe Joe Joe
Ya'll were getting in a pissing match saying it was just about money. Or at least that's how I read it.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:04 pm to dores97
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Ya'll were getting in a pissing match saying it was just about money. Or at least that's how I read it.
and there is your problem.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 4:34 pm to dores97
And you think a good recruit will want to go to Ole Miss just because of Frank? Does not matter if Frank goes there are not. Nobody wants to go to Ole Miss when they so bad. Recruits would be better off going to LA Tech or USM. At least they get to go to a bowl game.
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