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re: Herman vs. Jimbo vs. Orgeron
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:38 am to BlackPot
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:38 am to BlackPot
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Go look at Saban's records before coming to LSU. In your theory, you wouldn't want him here either. 1995 Michigan State 6–5–1 4–3–1 5th L Independence 1996 Michigan State 6–6 5–3 5th L Sun 1997 Michigan State 7–5 4–4 6th L Aloha 1998 Michigan State 6–6 4–4 6th 1999 Michigan State 9–2* 6–2 T–2nd Invited to Citrus* I'm for Coach O, but your reasoning is dumb.
Back then, LSU was not a top tier team. Saban was a questionable hire. He learned to coach at LSU.
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:39 am to LSU2THEMAX
By this same argument if LSU had kept Les, and he won every game with the exception of Alabama, you'd be in favor of keeping him?
The real problem is that the evidence of O's ability to sustain a program long term is lacking --- in fact, the evidence shows a complete inability to sustain a program. He needs to go to a mid-major or small Power 5 for a few years to prove that his Ole Miss tenure --- which was indisputably one of the worst coaching jobs in the SEC since Curley Hallman --- won't be repeated here.
The real problem is that the evidence of O's ability to sustain a program long term is lacking --- in fact, the evidence shows a complete inability to sustain a program. He needs to go to a mid-major or small Power 5 for a few years to prove that his Ole Miss tenure --- which was indisputably one of the worst coaching jobs in the SEC since Curley Hallman --- won't be repeated here.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:40 am to LSU2THEMAX
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The rest of the HC's around the country aren't any more proven than "O
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:41 am to BayouBengal99
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the only team we played that even resembles a top 5 team is bama and no one came closer to beating them then LSU.
How many wins versus the top 5, 10, or 25 did O have at ole miss? I wasn't claiming O should have beaten Bama this year, only stating Herman has beaten two top 5 teams, strengthening his resume versus O's.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:42 am to LSU2THEMAX
Down just down vote, Ban his arse
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:42 am to LSU2THEMAX
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GTFO!!!
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Great! They also lost to SMU and Navy!
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Both coaches would have been fired if they had a record like that at LSU!
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And I almost forgot! When Coach O speaks, you can actually understand what the heck he is saying. He is frank and to the point!
LSU Football is back!!! Let's keep it that way!!!
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:45 am to LSU2THEMAX
quote:Go check out O's record and frick off
Check out these records and tell me these coaches are better than "O".
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:45 am to Macavity92
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He needs to go to a mid-major or small Power 5 for a few years to prove that his Ole Miss tenure --- which was indisputably one of the worst coaching jobs in the SEC since Curley Hallman --- won't be repeated here.
correct. This is how it's almost always done.
First head coaching jobs:
Saban - Toledo
Meyer - Bowling Green
Harbaugh - Univ. of San Diego
and especially when a guy's only prior permanent HC experience was a 3-21 record in the SEC. Got to go to a mid-major and prove it before you get called back up to the big leagues.
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:46 am to Brazos
I'm not a coon arse and dgaf what accent he has. I don't want a coach that has by far the most talent in the acc and has underachieved greatly over the past 2 seasons. He won a title with crablegs. One would think people would have learned their lesson with hallman.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 9:54 am to atltiger6487
Lmao. You have to be one of the most IQ lacking posters on this board. I'm not even an O guy, but the MF will have been a head coach at two major programs recently and had great success. Good god the lack of intelligence by some of you.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:01 am to BlackPot
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Go look at Saban's records before coming to LSU. In your theory, you wouldn't want him here either.
1995 Michigan State 6–5–1 4–3–1 5th L Independence
1996 Michigan State 6–6 5–3 5th L Sun
1997 Michigan State 7–5 4–4 6th L Aloha
1998 Michigan State 6–6 4–4 6th
1999 Michigan State 9–2* 6–2 T–2nd Invited to Citrus*
I'm for Coach O, but your reasoning is dumb.
Saban inherited a Mich St program that had not had a winning season in 4 years and was hit with a reduction of 9 scholarships while he was there.
O inherited an Ole Miss program that was 44-29 the previous 6 seasons and 2 years removed from a tie for first in the SEC West.
Not quite the same situation.
Saban, Jimbo and Hermann were also accomplished coordinators by the time they became head coaches. O has never been a coordinator. The only time he has had charge of a program from top to bottom it got worse, not better.
He spent tons of time at USC on different occasions. They knew him well. They did not hire him. This should tell you something.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:13 am to LSU2THEMAX
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this decision should be a "no brainer".
Hiring Orgeron would be the very definition of "no brainer." Somehow, I feel we disagree on whether or not to view that as a positive.
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The rest of the HC's around the country aren't any more proven than "O".
That's just patently false.
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He has already worked miracles
Yes, it's been a real miracle that a team and offense that was designed to run the football has been able to run effectively against terrible run defenses.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:16 am to Macavity92
Yes, the hire they made was a good one. Lmao. Sometimes I wonder how some of you get to and from work daily without getting lost.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:42 am to LSU2THEMAX
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Let's get behind the man! He has already worked miracles, completely changed the competitiveness and enthusiasm of this team, and re-ignited the fan base.
You people are fricking retarded
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:46 am to LSU2THEMAX
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Stop lobbying for these other coaches who aren't really that great! Jimbo is past his prime and Herman may end up being a great coach, but it is still a major risk to think he can move into the SEC and beat Alabama or anyone else for that matter.
But you want o?????
Posted on 11/18/16 at 10:47 am to LSU2THEMAX
You sir, are fricking stupid
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:11 am to LSU2THEMAX
Cool troll, troll.
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:48 am to LSU2THEMAX
Worked miracles ? He beat a bunch of mediocre teams by running 50 x's a game. He had no plan for an equal or more talented team. He has never been a coordinator. Syracuse wouldn't even interview him!!! In 30 years not one person has offered him a DC job. And ole miss gives him a shot and he absolutely shite the bed. He needs to go to a mid major and build a winner from start to finish not an interim stint and then we can talk about him getting one of the best jobs in the country
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:40 pm to bayou85
Sorry I'm not a computer nerd like most on here and don't proof read my posts, it's simply not that important to me. So grade me how you like grammar cop.
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