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re: Here's what I don't get about the O crowd..
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:08 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:08 pm to Tiger Ree
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Notice how the Herman Homers always post his entire HC record? They know that 21-5 for his whole HC career sounds better than 8-4 for this year. Why is he getting worse as he has less of the previous staff's players?
You are the biggest sampler I have ever seen.
You used "last 4 games" when he went 2-2 in them. Now you are giving him 2 extra loses. Why is he gonna lose to Memphis?
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Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:18 pm to SportTiger1
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LIES. We won on the the road against OM in 2006. And since then, this was the second time we've played a road game after Bama.
Don't be dishonest.
I went ahead and looked at the schedule and it turns out you are the one lying and being dishonest.
From ESPN:
Sat, Nov 4
@ #8 Tennessee W 28-24
Sat, Nov 11
vs Alabama W28-14
Sat, Nov 18
vs Ole Miss W23-20 OT
Fri, Nov 24
@ #5 Arkansas W31-26
Since you aren't smart enough to know - The little "@" thingy means the game was played on the road. The "vs" means the game was played at home. Tennessee and Arkansas games have the "@". Alabama and Ole Miss don't have it.
So yes, Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week. Dumbass !!!
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:18 pm to Tiger Ree
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That's another reason that I think Herman will do even worse next year.
Why, because the AAC has good young coaches? That Herman is 4-1 against?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:22 pm to sheek
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Corporate mangement bases decisions on This and so do Atheltic departments
Successful corporations don't do faulty comparisons to base their decisions on. Mike Archer and the LSU program then are nothing like Ed Orgeron and the LSU program now. For one thing Archer was never known as a good recruiter.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:33 pm to Tiger Ree
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So yes, Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week. Dumbass !!!
Might want to check the 2005 schedule. You seem to have missed that year. Beat Alabama on the road on 11/12 and Ole Miss on the road 11/19.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:39 pm to SammyTiger
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Why is he gonna lose to Memphis?
In my opinion:
Because it is at Memphis. Memphis was able to do something Houston couldn't - go to Dallas and beat SMU. Houston lost 38-16 and Memphis beat them 51-7. Memphis had 474 yards and gave up 308, Houston had 303 yards and gave up 406. Houston is 2-2 on the road with a loss to SMU, Memphis is 4-2 at home. Houston's only road wins were against 4-6 Cincinnati and 2-7 Texas St, while losing to Navy and SMU.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:39 pm to Tiger Ree
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Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week. Dumbass !!!
Saturday, November 11, 2000. 20-9 win over Ole Miss in Oxford.
Saturday, November 22, 2003. 17-14 win over Ole Miss in Oxford.
Saturday, November 19, 2005. 40-7 win over Ole Miss in Oxford.
In that 20 year time period, how many times did LSU play on the road after playing Bama, 5. Now, you may decide to counter argue that you mean it's been 20 years since LSU won on the road after LOSING to Bama. Fine, but that's only two games, @Notre Dame in 1998 and @Arkansas in 2014. Sensationalize all you want about the number of years, but it isn't a frequent occurrence.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:45 pm to nvasil1
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Why, because the AAC has good young coaches? That Herman is 4-1 against?
Don't know who all those coaches would be. I didn't realize there were so many American conference fans on this board.
Against the ones the guy mentioned in his post - Herman is 2-1 against. He lost to SMU on the road and beat the other teams by 7 at home with more talent.
So yes, he will play two of those teams on the road next year and he appears to be getting worse every season.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:58 pm to Tiger Ree
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In my opinion: Because it is at Memphis. Memphis was able to do something Houston couldn't - go to Dallas and beat SMU. Houston lost 38-16 and Memphis beat them 51-7. Memphis had 474 yards and gave up 308, Houston had 303 yards and gave up 406. Houston is 2-2 on the road with a loss to SMU, Memphis is 4-2 at home. Houston's only road wins were against 4-6 Cincinnati and 2-7 Texas St, while losing to Navy and SMU.
You and I both know the transitive property does NOT work like that in sports. And say what you want, Herman did not lose to Navy and SMU with LSU talent. He lost to them with Houston talent, mostly talent that he did not recruit. In addition, SMU has been steadily improving under Morris, and Navy is year in and year out a tough opponent for even the Power 5 teams it plays.
Herman is not regarded as some up and coming coach just on this message board. He is widely regarded as THE top young coach, and 100% of Power 5 teams would take him over Coach O if given the option.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:59 pm to Macavity92
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Might want to check the 2005 schedule. You seem to have missed that year. Beat Alabama on the road on 11/12 and Ole Miss on the road 11/19.
My bad, I borrowed that bit of information from somebody else on the Rant. I also saw the graphic pop up when I was re-watching the LSU-Ark game. I may have inadvertently left out a word.
I should have said "Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road against a "RANKED" opponent in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:03 pm to LSUChamps03
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Herman did not lose to Navy and SMU with LSU talent. He lost to them with Houston talent,
Houston has more talent than both Navy and SMU. He is losing to lesser teams in his second year on the job. He would not last very long at all at LSU losing to less talented teams.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:04 pm to Tiger Ree
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Mike Archer and the LSU program then are nothing like Ed Orgeron and the LSU program now.
That's why I said relatively speaking. As it relates to the current state of the LSU program and all things considered, it would be like LSU hiring mike archer. Of course things are different now. recruiting? Curly hallman was an excellent recruiter, but also went 2-9 in 1992.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:05 pm to Tiger Ree
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I should have said "Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road against a "RANKED" opponent in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week.
You'd still be wrong. Ole Miss 2003.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:05 pm to Choupique19
You make some valid points. But again you select your standards based upon who you don't want as HC. For example-- you pick OC to show Orgeron was never a coordinator. However, O was asst head coach for two national titles at USC. National titles for the other candidates as asst head coach????
I haven't researched whether the other candidates have been recruiting coordinators-- but coach O has been at several winning teams.
Does this qualify or disqualify a candidate-- of course not. But you should look at the entire picture.
Again-- O may not be the next coach or best candidate-- but don't discount his accomplishments bc you want a different candidate.
I haven't researched whether the other candidates have been recruiting coordinators-- but coach O has been at several winning teams.
Does this qualify or disqualify a candidate-- of course not. But you should look at the entire picture.
Again-- O may not be the next coach or best candidate-- but don't discount his accomplishments bc you want a different candidate.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:06 pm to beauxroux
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However, O was asst head coach for two national titles at USC
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:07 pm to Tiger Ree
Sorry, 2005. Go check that one and get back to me.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:08 pm to Tiger Ree
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Notice how the Herman Homers always post his entire HC record?
Yeah who the frick cares about his entire record
Lets just pick and choose the 3 three games you want to look at to decide if he's good
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:10 pm to Tiger Ree
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I should have said "Coach O guided the Tigers to their first win on the road against a "RANKED" opponent in 20 years after playing Bama the prior week.
On 11/22/2003 LSU beat #15 Ole Miss on the road a week after beating Alabama on the road.
LSU didn't play a ranked team on the road the week after Bama again until 2015. In 2012 LSU played a ranked Miss St team the week after playing Bama and won. That was the first time after 2003 LSU played a ranked team (home or away) the week after Bama.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:16 pm to Macavity92
yeah but putting the 20 years in there sounds much more impressive, it probably came straight from Ponamsky's pamphlet
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:23 pm to Cap Crunch
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Lets just pick and choose the 3 three games you want to look at to decide if he's good
Actually, it's five games. The five most recent games where his team has done poorly and looked like shite on offense.
I have said his first year was impressive except for the loss to UCONN. This season hasn't been as good and will probably be a lot worse by the time the season is over. Possibly 8-5 after the bowl game. Houston fired their last coach after consecutive 8-5 seasons.
Do you hire him based solely on his first season? Do you look at his overall body of work with more emphasis on what has occurred more recently? I personally think what his program has looked like this year is more important than what they did last year. But that's just me.
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