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re: Got this email from a friend about Miles to Mich... UM board
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:33 am to Rocket
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:33 am to Rocket
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People in football think highly of him. He's just walking into a situation where the previous coach was very successful.
Yeah, I know some people think he is a slam dunk, but there is a huge difference between coordinator and HC.
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, I know some people think he is a slam dunk,
People who've coached with him, people who have hired him, and people who have played for him have a lot of respect for him. He really does have a great reputation in football circles. Sometimes there are just assistant coaches that you know are going to make great head coaches when they get that opportunity, depending on the resources the university has that he coaches for.
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but there is a huge difference between coordinator and HC.
Dude, plenty of coaches who aren't nearly as talented as him have made the transition. It's not rocket science. He's been preparing for this for a long time.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 1:42 am
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:45 am to Rocket
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Dude, plenty of coaches who aren't nearly as talented as him have made the transition. It's not rocket science. He's been preparing for this for a long time.
Gotcha. No chance WM will ever fail. He is tooooo great....
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Gotcha. No chance WM will ever fail. He is tooooo great
Dude, come on. I'm just saying making the transition isn't as difficult to make as you seem to imply. Plenty of coaches who don't have near the talent and skill have made the adjustment. And he'll have a solid staff and the athletes. He should be able to finish first in the East next year,especially if they get good QB play.
But, like I said, he's just following an extremely successful coach. The expectations are really high and the UF fans are just as insatiable and impatient or more so than LSU fans. But, he can't worry about what he can't control.
But, you make it out to be as volatile as the automotive industry. It's not like he's going from the head of the Lincoln brand at Ford to the CEO of GM.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:55 am to Rocket
All I am saying, is that no one is a slam dunk, including Muschamp.
For some reason, this really really bothers you....I ain't saying he will fail.
For some reason, this really really bothers you....I ain't saying he will fail.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 1:59 am to Abikaasa_Posti_Teel
One man's junk is another man's treasure?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 2:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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All I am saying, is that no one is a slam dunk, including Muschamp.
Who give a frick? You've been stuck on that for weeks now it seems. Almost every coaching hire is a gamble. Nobody knew Saban would have the success he would have when he was hired here. NOt many fans expected Les Miles to have had the success he's had since he's been here.
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For some reason, this really really bothers you
That doesn't bother me. It's annoying that you act like the transition from coordinator to head coach is rocket science and I don't think it is. If there is a problem with WM and his situation, as I said, it's going into a place where the expectations are about as high as they can get in college football. Those expectations would still be high even if he was coming from another school where he was the head coach. Filling Meyer's shoes is a big job for most coaches. Realistically, there would have only been a handful of coaches that could have been hired that people would have immediately thought were capable of doing that.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 2:18 am to Rocket
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Who give a frick? You've been stuck on that for weeks now it seems. Almost every coaching hire is a gamble.
You are an obstinate bitch. All I have ever said was no coach is a slam dunk hire and you start to argue how Muschamp is too good...blah blah blah..
You basically just shot your own argument down. Every coach is a risk. Thanks for verifying that for me. I have no idea why everytime I mention Muschamp you come knighting for his arse. He is human, and comes with a risk.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 2:21 am
Posted on 1/5/11 at 2:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You are an obstinate bitch. All I have ever said was no coach is a slam dunk hire and you start to argue how Muschamp is too good...blah blah blah..
Are you about to cry? What a pussy.
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You basically just shot your own argument down. Every coach is
No, I did not. You misunderstood what my basic argument was. And that is that while no coach is guaranteed success,Muschamp is more likely to have success than others. I mean, Florida had to hire somebody. They just couldn't wait and wait to hire somebody who think they is a "slam dunk", sombody with a magic wand. The same goes for LSU if we find ourselves in a position of replacing Miles. The only thing more annoying than you pointing out that no coach is a "slam dunk", is this notion you push that being a head coach is rocket science.
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He is human, and comes with a risk.
Jeez, really? You don't say? What else would you like to point out for us today,genius? That water is wet? That the sky is blue? You are just so enlightened.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 2:59 am to Rocket
Nah, you either totally cannot understand the point or you are just arguing to argue. My point was clear. Every coach comes with risk, and one without executive experience is no slam dunk. I said nothing otherwise.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 4:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nah, you either totally cannot understand the point or you are just arguing to argue
Neither.
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My point was clear.
I've never misunderstood anything you've posted.
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Every coach comes with risk, and one without executive experience is no slam dunk
But, a program, when they are seeking a replacement, has to roll the dice on somebody. Alot of folks in football think Muschamp is somebody that's worth rolling the dice on. Some coaches have to go be a head coach at a school that is not a flag ship school, and/or one that is not in a BCS conference before they get a head coaching position at an elite program like Florida, LSU, or Texas. Some coaches like Richt and Stoops didn't have to do that. I think he's more like them than alot of other coaches that have been coaching in the past decade or so. The expectations are high. There will be some on the job training and some growing pains and some mistakes but I think he'll be successful in the long run if UF fans are willing to give him a chance. Success early on will help calm worries and concerns. You seem to be unwilling to entertain the idea that he might be successful and that's fine. We'll see.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 4:47 am to Rocket
As far as coordinators go, he was probably as solid as they come. Still, its a long way from VP to CEO. My guess is he will do fine, but you never know. I wouldn't trade Miles for Muschamp.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 6:26 am to dr smartass phd
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New offensive and defensive schemes pretty much destroys the 2011 season.
yeah, this would set out qb situation back say,3 years or so
Posted on 1/5/11 at 6:56 am to Acreboy
quote:link? I always heard rumors about Carr not liking Miles but I never saw any direct quote where he actually came out and said it.
i remember Carr saying Miles wasn't a "true Michigan Man" and he really lobbied for Miles to not get the job.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 6:58 am to drexyl
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link? I always heard rumors about Carr not liking Miles but I never saw any direct quote where he actually came out and said it.
There was an article that came out well over a year ago called "A big house divided" and it laid out the sentiment at Michigan for and against Miles. Basically two camps at the school, and one was still solidly pro Miles. Carr was definitely not one of them.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 7:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
Was it over the sleeping with someone's wife thing? That's another thing I'm not quite familiar with.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 7:03 am to coldhotwings
NOT LEGIT
Posted on 1/5/11 at 7:08 am to RobbBobb
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Averaging 4 losses a year, is not worth over $4 million a year
Miles hasn't averaged 4 losses a year
Posted on 1/5/11 at 7:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There was an article that came out well over a year ago called "A big house divided" and it laid out the sentiment at Michigan for and against Miles. Basically two camps at the school, and one was still solidly pro Miles. Carr was definitely not one of them.
LINK
Posted on 1/5/11 at 7:47 am to SPEEDY
Sounds like Carr doesn't care for what is best for UM.
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