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Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:07 pm to cajuntiger07
I still can't believe that Willingham's name has even come up in a coaching search. Maryland should be embarrassed that they are even considering him. He's literally equivalent to getting the Death Penalty as a program. Here's what a Husky fan (AngryAlum) wrote about all of the things that Willingham did wrong at Washington.
So here it is, my definitive list of what Ty did wrong at UW. This list represents my opinion, and the opinion of many others. Much of it can be backed up by facts and data. Still more of it was covered in the local sports media (links provided).
1. Failed at managing his position/assistant coaches. Don James always
coached his coaches, and held them to strict standards...Ty never did that.
Ty did his best to turn the UW into a rest home for substandard assistant
coaches. This has resulted in #2 on my list.
2. Failed to coach fundamentals. Do not be fooled by the 'Washington didn't have talent' argument. The basics - kick coverage, blocking and tackling are absolutely independent of talent. A good coach can teach a
bunch of 12 year olds how to block and tackle properly. Tyrone has failed to
teach college players at a BCS program how to do the most basic things in
the game.
In fact, I don't think I'm going too far in saying you could probably see
better tackling (not saying better talent or better athletes, but better
technique) at Bellevue High on a Friday night than you could at UW during Tyrone's tenure.
Yes, the assistants should've been teaching it, but this gets back to his
failure to manage their performance.
3. Made excuses continually. It's one thing to fail and to bear it with
good grace. It's entirely another to tacitly place the blame on a bunch of
18-22 year olds that you're in charge of developing. It's just painful to
watch a 54 year old man whine continually about why he can't do his job. He
infamously derided the talent level of the players (players he largely recruited) by saying that he needed
more bullets. If you were a player, how hard would you want to play for the guy covering his hide by trashing you in the local paper?
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2003973169_ uwfb25.html
What coach Willingham failed to mention is that the lack of bullets was
entirely his fault. When he arrived at Washington, he immediately took a
golf vacation and coached in an all star game. His first recruiting class
to Washington landed 13 players. Only 5 are still with the program, so his
laziness as a recruiter still affects us to this day. The senior leadership
we'd have gotten from a full class would have helped immeasurably THIS
season.
https://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2007-11-02/ten-things-watch-weekend
4. Failed at both recruiting and player develoment I challenge you to name
three guys who got significantly better during Ty's tenure. There were
young guys who showed up able to play (Foster), but in general with almost
every player, the first time you saw them is the best they ever looked. Did
Jake Locker ever look any better than he did against Syracuse? Everyone
seemed to regress together under Ty's 'coaching'.
Recruiting was just as bad. Tyrone had a penchant for going after players no
other BCS programs wanted. 41% of the recruits he pulled in had no other
BCS offers. He was literally aiming for the bottom of the barrel, possibly
because landing them was less work.
https://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/ view/25383/you,_too,_can_fire_ty_willingham_and_experience_wild_recruiting_success
https://blogs.thenewstribune.com/uwsports/2008/10/13/willingham_on_recruiting_troubles
5. Made the team soft. This is the most poorly conditioned Husky team I've
ever seen. The team is not just bad...it's weak, and you can see it on any
given snap.
I spent a lot of time complaining about the interior defensive line last summer
to justify my 4-8 projection, but I had no idea it would be this bad.
And by the way, the general lack of conditioning on this team has cost us
wins. I believe it's the root of our problems in the 4th quarter. It's not
just about second half adjustments. Sometimes, you can see our guys are
absolutely gassed late in games. Add to that the lack of depth, and you
have a lot of a late game collapses.
6. De-emphasized line play. I haven't seen us consistently get a good push
on either side of the ball since Ty's been here. See who's giving ground and
who's gaining at the line of scrimmage, and you've got the answer to 80% of
our problems.
Ty also had a history of poor lines. A Notre Dame fan put together a year by year
retrospective showing that Tyrone's recruiting completely decimated their line. I encourage you to review this closely.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/37444-the-willingham-effect-offensive-line-recruiting-under-ty-and-charlie?search_query=ty%20willingham
7. Robbed the players of emotion. I've seen bad teams go out and at least
play with some emotion. Tyrone not only made the Huskies bad, he made them
boring.
8. Lived up to his reputation as a lazy recruiter. Tyrone's failure to
hit the ground running in 2005, as well as his documented laziness in
recruiting guys like Schilling has cost this program dearly. Let's look at
the in-state players Tyrone lost:
Steve Schilling* - Starting OL at Michigan
Jonathan Stewart - Carolina Panthers
Anthony Felder* - Started at Cal
Taylor Mays* - Future Top 5 NFL pick
Jake Heaps* - Headed to BYU
* These guys all live within about 20 minutes of the UW campus. Felder and
Mays are from right in Seattle, and Mays' dad was a Husky. Jake Heaps played
on the same TEAM as Tyrone's son at Skyline, but Tyrone still barely
recruited him. You will NEVER have better access to a recruit than that.
The #1 QB in the country is on the same TEAM as your own kid, and you still
manage to lose that recruit??
9. Alienated the fanbase. Tyrone's aloof manner, arrogance, miserable PR
skills, along with the losing, have made him an agent in the Athletic
Departments efforts to make Husky fans feel not quite part of the program.
10. Contributed largely to a detrimental culture shift. Comportment
became more important than aggressiveness and winning.
The term 'culture of losing' is not at all inappropriate or hyperbolic.
11. Steadily eroded expectations. Because so many people wanted Ty to
succeed (indeed, we were all desperate for hm to do so) the bar for success
kept creeping lower. When Ty got here, I remember us saying that 4 or 5
wins would be a good goal for 2005. We won 2. Then in 2006, the goal was to
be a bowl team, in Ty's own words.
We started 4-1 and looked bowl bound, but finished 5-7. Then in 2007, we
won one less game than 2006 (although we played one MORE game) and more
excuses and rationalizations were made.
In other words, nobody, but nobody was holding Ty to the expectation in 2007
that he had set for himself in 2006!! He had barely met the goal that was
set in 2005, and people were still making excuses for him.
This is a sure sign of a program and fanbase that believes it deserves no
better.
So here it is, my definitive list of what Ty did wrong at UW. This list represents my opinion, and the opinion of many others. Much of it can be backed up by facts and data. Still more of it was covered in the local sports media (links provided).
1. Failed at managing his position/assistant coaches. Don James always
coached his coaches, and held them to strict standards...Ty never did that.
Ty did his best to turn the UW into a rest home for substandard assistant
coaches. This has resulted in #2 on my list.
2. Failed to coach fundamentals. Do not be fooled by the 'Washington didn't have talent' argument. The basics - kick coverage, blocking and tackling are absolutely independent of talent. A good coach can teach a
bunch of 12 year olds how to block and tackle properly. Tyrone has failed to
teach college players at a BCS program how to do the most basic things in
the game.
In fact, I don't think I'm going too far in saying you could probably see
better tackling (not saying better talent or better athletes, but better
technique) at Bellevue High on a Friday night than you could at UW during Tyrone's tenure.
Yes, the assistants should've been teaching it, but this gets back to his
failure to manage their performance.
3. Made excuses continually. It's one thing to fail and to bear it with
good grace. It's entirely another to tacitly place the blame on a bunch of
18-22 year olds that you're in charge of developing. It's just painful to
watch a 54 year old man whine continually about why he can't do his job. He
infamously derided the talent level of the players (players he largely recruited) by saying that he needed
more bullets. If you were a player, how hard would you want to play for the guy covering his hide by trashing you in the local paper?
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2003973169_ uwfb25.html
What coach Willingham failed to mention is that the lack of bullets was
entirely his fault. When he arrived at Washington, he immediately took a
golf vacation and coached in an all star game. His first recruiting class
to Washington landed 13 players. Only 5 are still with the program, so his
laziness as a recruiter still affects us to this day. The senior leadership
we'd have gotten from a full class would have helped immeasurably THIS
season.
https://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2007-11-02/ten-things-watch-weekend
4. Failed at both recruiting and player develoment I challenge you to name
three guys who got significantly better during Ty's tenure. There were
young guys who showed up able to play (Foster), but in general with almost
every player, the first time you saw them is the best they ever looked. Did
Jake Locker ever look any better than he did against Syracuse? Everyone
seemed to regress together under Ty's 'coaching'.
Recruiting was just as bad. Tyrone had a penchant for going after players no
other BCS programs wanted. 41% of the recruits he pulled in had no other
BCS offers. He was literally aiming for the bottom of the barrel, possibly
because landing them was less work.
https://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/ view/25383/you,_too,_can_fire_ty_willingham_and_experience_wild_recruiting_success
https://blogs.thenewstribune.com/uwsports/2008/10/13/willingham_on_recruiting_troubles
5. Made the team soft. This is the most poorly conditioned Husky team I've
ever seen. The team is not just bad...it's weak, and you can see it on any
given snap.
I spent a lot of time complaining about the interior defensive line last summer
to justify my 4-8 projection, but I had no idea it would be this bad.
And by the way, the general lack of conditioning on this team has cost us
wins. I believe it's the root of our problems in the 4th quarter. It's not
just about second half adjustments. Sometimes, you can see our guys are
absolutely gassed late in games. Add to that the lack of depth, and you
have a lot of a late game collapses.
6. De-emphasized line play. I haven't seen us consistently get a good push
on either side of the ball since Ty's been here. See who's giving ground and
who's gaining at the line of scrimmage, and you've got the answer to 80% of
our problems.
Ty also had a history of poor lines. A Notre Dame fan put together a year by year
retrospective showing that Tyrone's recruiting completely decimated their line. I encourage you to review this closely.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/37444-the-willingham-effect-offensive-line-recruiting-under-ty-and-charlie?search_query=ty%20willingham
7. Robbed the players of emotion. I've seen bad teams go out and at least
play with some emotion. Tyrone not only made the Huskies bad, he made them
boring.
8. Lived up to his reputation as a lazy recruiter. Tyrone's failure to
hit the ground running in 2005, as well as his documented laziness in
recruiting guys like Schilling has cost this program dearly. Let's look at
the in-state players Tyrone lost:
Steve Schilling* - Starting OL at Michigan
Jonathan Stewart - Carolina Panthers
Anthony Felder* - Started at Cal
Taylor Mays* - Future Top 5 NFL pick
Jake Heaps* - Headed to BYU
* These guys all live within about 20 minutes of the UW campus. Felder and
Mays are from right in Seattle, and Mays' dad was a Husky. Jake Heaps played
on the same TEAM as Tyrone's son at Skyline, but Tyrone still barely
recruited him. You will NEVER have better access to a recruit than that.
The #1 QB in the country is on the same TEAM as your own kid, and you still
manage to lose that recruit??
9. Alienated the fanbase. Tyrone's aloof manner, arrogance, miserable PR
skills, along with the losing, have made him an agent in the Athletic
Departments efforts to make Husky fans feel not quite part of the program.
10. Contributed largely to a detrimental culture shift. Comportment
became more important than aggressiveness and winning.
The term 'culture of losing' is not at all inappropriate or hyperbolic.
11. Steadily eroded expectations. Because so many people wanted Ty to
succeed (indeed, we were all desperate for hm to do so) the bar for success
kept creeping lower. When Ty got here, I remember us saying that 4 or 5
wins would be a good goal for 2005. We won 2. Then in 2006, the goal was to
be a bowl team, in Ty's own words.
We started 4-1 and looked bowl bound, but finished 5-7. Then in 2007, we
won one less game than 2006 (although we played one MORE game) and more
excuses and rationalizations were made.
In other words, nobody, but nobody was holding Ty to the expectation in 2007
that he had set for himself in 2006!! He had barely met the goal that was
set in 2005, and people were still making excuses for him.
This is a sure sign of a program and fanbase that believes it deserves no
better.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:08 pm to TDawg1313
(continued)
12. Isolated former players. Steve Emtman, the greatest Husky to ever lace
them up, practically begged to be a part of the program, and Ty gave him the
stiff arm.
Then there's the 'one sideline pass per season' policy. Even great former
players have to feel restricted in how they want to support their program.
And don't forget that Reggie Williams and Lawyer Milloy can't work out here,
but somehow Shaun Alexander (who played at Alabama, but wrote a letter in
support of Ty last December) can. Garbage.
13. Was responsible for the worst loss in Husky history. I will never
stop bringing it up. Being the '1' in a 1-11 record (Stanford, 2006) is
unforgivable, and it should follow Ty for the rest of his life. Even if he
lives to be 100 (and I hope he does, bon viva), it should be a byline in his
eulogy. It should be carved on his headstone that he missed a bowl game
by losing -- at home -- on Senior Day -- to one of the five worst teams in
the history of the Pac 10.
14. Got the team, fans, and opponents to expect the Huskies to lose. *Even
during the august reign of Gilby the Great, nobody expected to lose. We
were shocked and angered with each loss. With Ty, we've come to expect to
lose, the players certainly play like they expect to lose, and the opponents
expect to beat us.
Some guy posted earlier that we were like the Washington Generals. Well,
it's actually true. Truer than you think -- because the Washington Generals
expected to lose to the Globetrotters, every night. We're the same way. It
wasn't always like that, even when Gilby was here.
15. Showed blatant disregard for the future of the program. The willy
nilly burning of Cody Bruns' redshirt during an insignificant game that was
already out of reach for an 0-4 team showed me that Tyrone couldn't care
less about that kid or the program's future. It doesn't matter that he
might get more snaps later. He'd have been better as a 5th year senior.
That's five years of development (under a real coach), five years in the
weight room, five years watching film -- and now he's not going to get that
chance.
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2008284037_kelley19.html
It's curious, however, that Willingham treated the players' futures in a
much less cavalier manner back when he himself still had a future at UW.
It's well known that Jake Locker practically begged to come into the
Stanford game in 2006 and burn his redshirt. We had two QB's ahead of him
injured, and wound up losing that game. Tyrone did not burn Jake's redshirt.
Why did he preserve Locker's redshirt with a bowl game on the line, but
throw Bruns' away in garbage time (we lost 48-10) in an already doomed
season?
16. Allegedly played racial politics to keep his job. We've gone over this one a
great deal, so no detail's needed...but Ty deserves every bit of contempt
for his actions in December 2007. In all fairness, none of us knows what was said behind closed doors when the worst coach in the history of Washington football was inexplicably retained, but there is widespread speculation (and it's only speculation) that the NAACP played a role. While it's unlikely that Tyrone did it himself, there is a history of him allowing others to do the heavy lifting for him.
Willingham did not 'allegedly' use race as a weapon at Notre Dame. He flat out did it. Here is an excerpt from a 2005 interview with John Saunders.
JS: You weren't given the five years that other coaches got to demonstrate those skills. Do you think it is in part because you're an African-American?
TW: I've always said that in this country there is no absence of racism, okay, we're all aware of that, it's been here for quite some time, okay. And to think it would NOT factor in may be naïve on my part. But the people that really know that answer are the ones that we need to talk to.
https://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_bluegraysky_archive.html#112769585315844653
So Tyrone came into an historical opportunity, lost games at the same clip as both his predecessor and successor, but still found a way to say that it was racial. Galling. Do you really want a coach who loses games in bunches and is going to be messy to fire?
17. Failed to connect to the program's past. When Pete Carroll first took
the USC job, one of the first things he did was go out to Marv Goux, who was a Trojan
legend. And he asked him basically, 'How can I connect to this place, what's
important to this program, tell me what USC means to you, etc.' and I'm sure
some of it sounds hokey.
But it also shows respect for the program's history and Carroll's desire, as
an outsider, to become a part of it.
What did Tyrone do when he first took the Husky job?
Coach in an all star game and take a golf vacation. Right at the time when
most coaches are, at the very least, trying to hold a recruiting class
together.
Both Carroll and Ty took the job at a time when the fan base wasn't entirely
sold on them. Carroll busted his butt to make sure that he earned his way
into their good graces, and Ty ignored and later alienated both the longtime
fans and the former players.
18. Did zero for fundraising.
Dear Booster,
I have a reputation for being moody and aloof and I lose three times as many games as I win. But as you know,
Husky Stadium is crumbling and we need almost a third of a billion dollars
to renovate it. Please send a (large) check to:
Department of Intercollegiate Athletics
University of Washington
Box 354070, Graves Building
Seattle, WA 98195
Sincerely,
Tyrone Willingham
19. Chased off players, even those who seemed to live up to his ideals
As Michael Braunstein points out, he was an Academic All American. The Suddenly Senior
deal was the shoddiest treatment I've ever seen of college players.
Absolutely unbelievable. On the Scumbag Scale, it's the moral equivalent of
firing somebody over the answering machine and not giving them a reason or
cause that you did it. And then telling 70,000 people that you fired them.
(Note: Suddenly Senior was when Willingham kicked several juniors off the team by telling them right before the game on Senior Day that they'd be honored as Seniors, and shown the door. This was a complete surprise to fans, players, and their teammates)
https://www.seattlepi.com/moore/292225_moore14.html
12. Isolated former players. Steve Emtman, the greatest Husky to ever lace
them up, practically begged to be a part of the program, and Ty gave him the
stiff arm.
Then there's the 'one sideline pass per season' policy. Even great former
players have to feel restricted in how they want to support their program.
And don't forget that Reggie Williams and Lawyer Milloy can't work out here,
but somehow Shaun Alexander (who played at Alabama, but wrote a letter in
support of Ty last December) can. Garbage.
13. Was responsible for the worst loss in Husky history. I will never
stop bringing it up. Being the '1' in a 1-11 record (Stanford, 2006) is
unforgivable, and it should follow Ty for the rest of his life. Even if he
lives to be 100 (and I hope he does, bon viva), it should be a byline in his
eulogy. It should be carved on his headstone that he missed a bowl game
by losing -- at home -- on Senior Day -- to one of the five worst teams in
the history of the Pac 10.
14. Got the team, fans, and opponents to expect the Huskies to lose. *Even
during the august reign of Gilby the Great, nobody expected to lose. We
were shocked and angered with each loss. With Ty, we've come to expect to
lose, the players certainly play like they expect to lose, and the opponents
expect to beat us.
Some guy posted earlier that we were like the Washington Generals. Well,
it's actually true. Truer than you think -- because the Washington Generals
expected to lose to the Globetrotters, every night. We're the same way. It
wasn't always like that, even when Gilby was here.
15. Showed blatant disregard for the future of the program. The willy
nilly burning of Cody Bruns' redshirt during an insignificant game that was
already out of reach for an 0-4 team showed me that Tyrone couldn't care
less about that kid or the program's future. It doesn't matter that he
might get more snaps later. He'd have been better as a 5th year senior.
That's five years of development (under a real coach), five years in the
weight room, five years watching film -- and now he's not going to get that
chance.
https://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/stevekelley/2008284037_kelley19.html
It's curious, however, that Willingham treated the players' futures in a
much less cavalier manner back when he himself still had a future at UW.
It's well known that Jake Locker practically begged to come into the
Stanford game in 2006 and burn his redshirt. We had two QB's ahead of him
injured, and wound up losing that game. Tyrone did not burn Jake's redshirt.
Why did he preserve Locker's redshirt with a bowl game on the line, but
throw Bruns' away in garbage time (we lost 48-10) in an already doomed
season?
16. Allegedly played racial politics to keep his job. We've gone over this one a
great deal, so no detail's needed...but Ty deserves every bit of contempt
for his actions in December 2007. In all fairness, none of us knows what was said behind closed doors when the worst coach in the history of Washington football was inexplicably retained, but there is widespread speculation (and it's only speculation) that the NAACP played a role. While it's unlikely that Tyrone did it himself, there is a history of him allowing others to do the heavy lifting for him.
Willingham did not 'allegedly' use race as a weapon at Notre Dame. He flat out did it. Here is an excerpt from a 2005 interview with John Saunders.
JS: You weren't given the five years that other coaches got to demonstrate those skills. Do you think it is in part because you're an African-American?
TW: I've always said that in this country there is no absence of racism, okay, we're all aware of that, it's been here for quite some time, okay. And to think it would NOT factor in may be naïve on my part. But the people that really know that answer are the ones that we need to talk to.
https://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_bluegraysky_archive.html#112769585315844653
So Tyrone came into an historical opportunity, lost games at the same clip as both his predecessor and successor, but still found a way to say that it was racial. Galling. Do you really want a coach who loses games in bunches and is going to be messy to fire?
17. Failed to connect to the program's past. When Pete Carroll first took
the USC job, one of the first things he did was go out to Marv Goux, who was a Trojan
legend. And he asked him basically, 'How can I connect to this place, what's
important to this program, tell me what USC means to you, etc.' and I'm sure
some of it sounds hokey.
But it also shows respect for the program's history and Carroll's desire, as
an outsider, to become a part of it.
What did Tyrone do when he first took the Husky job?
Coach in an all star game and take a golf vacation. Right at the time when
most coaches are, at the very least, trying to hold a recruiting class
together.
Both Carroll and Ty took the job at a time when the fan base wasn't entirely
sold on them. Carroll busted his butt to make sure that he earned his way
into their good graces, and Ty ignored and later alienated both the longtime
fans and the former players.
18. Did zero for fundraising.
Dear Booster,
I have a reputation for being moody and aloof and I lose three times as many games as I win. But as you know,
Husky Stadium is crumbling and we need almost a third of a billion dollars
to renovate it. Please send a (large) check to:
Department of Intercollegiate Athletics
University of Washington
Box 354070, Graves Building
Seattle, WA 98195
Sincerely,
Tyrone Willingham
19. Chased off players, even those who seemed to live up to his ideals
As Michael Braunstein points out, he was an Academic All American. The Suddenly Senior
deal was the shoddiest treatment I've ever seen of college players.
Absolutely unbelievable. On the Scumbag Scale, it's the moral equivalent of
firing somebody over the answering machine and not giving them a reason or
cause that you did it. And then telling 70,000 people that you fired them.
(Note: Suddenly Senior was when Willingham kicked several juniors off the team by telling them right before the game on Senior Day that they'd be honored as Seniors, and shown the door. This was a complete surprise to fans, players, and their teammates)
https://www.seattlepi.com/moore/292225_moore14.html
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:09 pm to TDawg1313
(continued)
20. Complained about talent and depth despite having chased off players.
I'm not saying we'd have won games just because EJ Savannah would've been
there, but having your leading tackler would've helped. And if JR Hasty were
available, we wouldn't have had to burn Terrence Dailey's redshirt. Ty complains
about the lack of depth, but his failure to recruit and penchant for running
players off to Ellensburg is the #1 reason we lack depth.
21. Allowed his teams to consistently look unprepared. Best example: After
getting a reprieve from the dreaded pink slip, Tyrone spent the 2007-2008
offseason doing what? After 8 months of closed practices, spring ball,
supposedly hitting the weights, fall camp, etc. -- Ty still managed to have
his team look like they'd just rolled out of bed for the opener, which we
lost 44-10.
If you almost lost your job and knew you had one more shot to straighten up
and fly right, wouldn't you?
22. Referred to himself in the third person. "I have never felt sorry for
Tyrone Willingham" What the hell is that??
23. Accepted a lot of credit for things he didn't do. When the APR
(Academic Progress Rate) numbers came out last summer, I looked, and found
that the APR (which is really mroe an institutional function anyway) under
Tyrone was similar to guys like Tommy Tubberville and Tommy Bowden, and
those guys win games.
The APR here at UW while Tyrone (the molder of men) was coach was marginally
above average, not stellar. And most of his reputation was built around
being a guy who would graduate players. But the fact is, the graduation
rate is (slightly) lower than when Neuheisel was here.
24. Allowed the fanbase to be divided on his behalf. This has been as
contentious and difficult a time to be a Husky fan as any of us has ever
seen. Just talking about Ty can get fans into an argument, very quickly.
His actions (16) to keep his job polarized a lot of people.
What Tyrone's role in this is either a) acting as an active wedge, in his
maneuvers to keep his job or antagonizing some of the fans, or b) passively
allowing people to make bogus excuses (i.e., Typologies) for his performance
like schedule, (which I researched and proved to him was simply false),
youth,talent, the economy, etc.
25. Oh wait, I forgot: He lost a TON OF GAMES. Tyrone finished 11-37 at
Washington. He was 6-30 against the Pac-10. He finished 10th, 9th, and
10th, 10th in the conference. That means 3 out of 4 years he was worse than
WSU.
For his career, Tyrone Willingham has coached 14 seasons, but only had a winning record in 6 of them. His career record is 76-88-1.
Trivia: Between 2005-2008, Tyrone Willingham won 6 Pac 10 games. Charlie Weis over the same interval won 7. An out of conference coach literally won more Pac10 games than Ty.
I'm saving this list. I will send it to any athletic director who even considers hiring this ridiculous program killing fraud.
20. Complained about talent and depth despite having chased off players.
I'm not saying we'd have won games just because EJ Savannah would've been
there, but having your leading tackler would've helped. And if JR Hasty were
available, we wouldn't have had to burn Terrence Dailey's redshirt. Ty complains
about the lack of depth, but his failure to recruit and penchant for running
players off to Ellensburg is the #1 reason we lack depth.
21. Allowed his teams to consistently look unprepared. Best example: After
getting a reprieve from the dreaded pink slip, Tyrone spent the 2007-2008
offseason doing what? After 8 months of closed practices, spring ball,
supposedly hitting the weights, fall camp, etc. -- Ty still managed to have
his team look like they'd just rolled out of bed for the opener, which we
lost 44-10.
If you almost lost your job and knew you had one more shot to straighten up
and fly right, wouldn't you?
22. Referred to himself in the third person. "I have never felt sorry for
Tyrone Willingham" What the hell is that??
23. Accepted a lot of credit for things he didn't do. When the APR
(Academic Progress Rate) numbers came out last summer, I looked, and found
that the APR (which is really mroe an institutional function anyway) under
Tyrone was similar to guys like Tommy Tubberville and Tommy Bowden, and
those guys win games.
The APR here at UW while Tyrone (the molder of men) was coach was marginally
above average, not stellar. And most of his reputation was built around
being a guy who would graduate players. But the fact is, the graduation
rate is (slightly) lower than when Neuheisel was here.
24. Allowed the fanbase to be divided on his behalf. This has been as
contentious and difficult a time to be a Husky fan as any of us has ever
seen. Just talking about Ty can get fans into an argument, very quickly.
His actions (16) to keep his job polarized a lot of people.
What Tyrone's role in this is either a) acting as an active wedge, in his
maneuvers to keep his job or antagonizing some of the fans, or b) passively
allowing people to make bogus excuses (i.e., Typologies) for his performance
like schedule, (which I researched and proved to him was simply false),
youth,talent, the economy, etc.
25. Oh wait, I forgot: He lost a TON OF GAMES. Tyrone finished 11-37 at
Washington. He was 6-30 against the Pac-10. He finished 10th, 9th, and
10th, 10th in the conference. That means 3 out of 4 years he was worse than
WSU.
For his career, Tyrone Willingham has coached 14 seasons, but only had a winning record in 6 of them. His career record is 76-88-1.
Trivia: Between 2005-2008, Tyrone Willingham won 6 Pac 10 games. Charlie Weis over the same interval won 7. An out of conference coach literally won more Pac10 games than Ty.
I'm saving this list. I will send it to any athletic director who even considers hiring this ridiculous program killing fraud.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:10 pm to TDawg1313
TDawg is going into full meltdown mode at the very mention of the name Willingham 
To be honest, if Harbaugh leaves, he might get a look at Stanford. He's very well liked by many in the cardinal fanbase
To be honest, if Harbaugh leaves, he might get a look at Stanford. He's very well liked by many in the cardinal fanbase
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:11 pm to usc6158
quote:
TDawg is going into full meltdown mode at the very mention of the name Willingham
Yeah. Most Washington and Notre Dame fans would.Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:20 pm to TDawg1313
Sounds like Willingham haunts you like the spectres of Hallman, Tepper, and Crowton haunt us.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:33 pm to TDawg1313
thanks Man. That was a great "inside" look at him.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 5:42 pm to TDawg1313
quote:
Trivia: Between 2005-2008, Tyrone Willingham won 6 Pac 10 games. Charlie Weis over the same interval won 7. An out of conference coach literally won more Pac10 games than Ty.
Wow, and Charlie sucked.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 6:07 pm to cajuntiger07
Quote:
Willingham has ties to the AD at Maryland.
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So you are saying that LSU still has a chance to get Leach.
Willingham has ties to the AD at Maryland.
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So you are saying that LSU still has a chance to get Leach.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:19 pm to Born to be a Tiger
There is no chance on Ty getting the maryland job. Plank is on the Bd of Supervisors and has the control and has shown a willingness to use his power.
Posted on 12/20/10 at 7:53 pm to TDawg1313
quote:
Tdawg1313
post of the year
Posted on 12/20/10 at 8:24 pm to RayFinkleTTU
I remember reading recently (maybe last year) that Willingham declared that he was "retiring". As if he had a say in the matter. Who would want him?
He is a fraud.
When ND fired him, I thought it was a ballsy but absolutely correct move. Of course, the media freaked out and dragged ND through the mud. And then that clown John Saunders said on national TV that ND had racist motives behind the move. That stuff irks me.
Nevermind that Florida had fired Zook after only 3 years, and he had a better record than Willingham!
TDawg is right. Willingham is the wealthiest, worst coach in the history of mankind. He's probably still getting paychecks from ND and Washington.
As if he had a say in the matter. Who would want him? He is a fraud.
When ND fired him, I thought it was a ballsy but absolutely correct move. Of course, the media freaked out and dragged ND through the mud. And then that clown John Saunders said on national TV that ND had racist motives behind the move. That stuff irks me.
Nevermind that Florida had fired Zook after only 3 years, and he had a better record than Willingham!
TDawg is right. Willingham is the wealthiest, worst coach in the history of mankind. He's probably still getting paychecks from ND and Washington.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 9:18 am to bayoujd
After reading this stuff about Ty, it makes Ralph look like a NC coach. And he is getting fired after winning ACC coach of the year.
ESPN reported that RF no longer excited the fan base. If that is the case, should Willingham get this job, would it be possible that fans would not even show up for games at all?
ESPN reported that RF no longer excited the fan base. If that is the case, should Willingham get this job, would it be possible that fans would not even show up for games at all?
Posted on 12/21/10 at 10:10 am to GABlueDog
quote:
Anyone else think firing Friedgen was the wrong move?
I think it was the right move for the sole purpose of recruiting. Yeah, he had a good season, quite the turnaround from last year, won ACC Coach of the Year. Next year was his last on his contract, they lost their head coach in waiting. No point in having a lame duck coach. Kids want stability.
Good decision by the AD.. IMHO.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 12:37 pm to derekinne
Friedgen wouldn't be a bad OC hire, IMO.
Posted on 12/21/10 at 8:52 pm to LSUtoOmaha
quote:
LSUtoOmaha
Off topic: I love your sig pic. Where is that?
Posted on 12/21/10 at 9:00 pm to RayFinkleTTU
quote:If longest post of the year is the main criteria, then it certainly qualifies. I tried, but I really couldn't make it through.
post of the year
Posted on 12/22/10 at 11:39 am to HeadSlash
Edsall will hold out for the Penn State job
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