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ESPN article on coaching vacancies including the Saints.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:02 pm
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This is behind the ESPN+ paywall so i will quote the relevant passages.
ESPN writer Jeremy Fowler who wrote the piece on the Saints in the article listed the usual suspects as their candidate list right now: Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Joe Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Mike Vrabel.
He then added that Mike McCarthy may be interested and prefaced that with this sentence, "This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently."
That certainly goes totally against the common logic among posters here.
This is behind the ESPN+ paywall so i will quote the relevant passages.
ESPN writer Jeremy Fowler who wrote the piece on the Saints in the article listed the usual suspects as their candidate list right now: Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn, Eagles offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the Bills' Joe Brady, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, current interim coach Darren Rizzi, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka and Mike Vrabel.
He then added that Mike McCarthy may be interested and prefaced that with this sentence, "This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently."
That certainly goes totally against the common logic among posters here.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:13 pm to bstaceyau19
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This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently
This can be said about any NFL head coaching job. There are only a select few to go around, so they're all coveted to some degree. But is it more coveted than the other openings around the league?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:20 pm to sportsfan
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There are only a select few to go around, so they're all coveted to some degree. But is it more coveted than the other openings around the league?
The context of the article is that yes it is.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:53 pm to bstaceyau19
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Fowler: Glenn still seems like the favorite, but he could have options. Glenn and Brady both have New Orleans connectivity as former Saints staffers.
Graziano: Agreed that Glenn seems like the favorite in New Orleans. He's extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.
Also a snippet from the article.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:59 pm to bstaceyau19
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He then added that Mike McCarthy may be interested and prefaced that with this sentence, "This is a coveted job among people I've spoken to recently."
What you heard was “this is a coveted job”
But what was said was “this is a coveted job for the people I’ve spoken too recently”
That sentence has a wide range of potential meaning based on who he recently talked to. If he talked to the top candidates then yeah you’d be onto something, but if he just talked to Adam Gase, guessing you wouldn’t have the same impression
Again as I said repeatedly in the thread you are referring to, it’s 1 HC job out of 32 possible HC jobs at this level. You aren’t going to be shortage of people who want the job.
But it’s silly to pretend like it isn’t objectively a worse situation to walk into than the other jobs open and will likely not be appealing to the candidates that have offers from the other teams.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:32 pm to wildtigercat93
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But it’s silly to pretend like it isn’t objectively a worse situation to walk into than the other jobs open and will likely not be appealing to the candidates that have offers from the other teams.
I know what you're saying but for argument's sake:
Chicago - in a very difficult division, have to play in bad weather, Caleb might suck, and horrible ownership which is about to get worse as kids fight over inheritance.
Raiders - another bad and cheap owner, fired coach after one year who was set up to fail. No QB. Another tough division (Mahomes, Hebert, and now Broncos look good)
Patriots - media spotlight, intrusive owner, fired coach after one year in a clear rebuilding situation. Probably going to Vrabel anyway.
Jets - do I have to say anything? Media spotlight, bad owner (cussed out backup QB in locker room this year), no QB, horrible history.
Jaguars - Trent Baalke. And is Trevor any good?
ETA - I know the fans hate Gayle, but the Saints and Jags probably have the best ownership situation from a coaching hire standpoint - mostly hands-off and patient. NFC south is an easy division (relative to others). New coach may be on board with sucking for a season or two if it's part of a plan and he knows the owner will be patient.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:39 pm to bstaceyau19
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:40 pm to bstaceyau19
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The context of the article is that yes it is.
It’s an outlier then. Let’s see who we end up with before we anoint this a great job again.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 7:24 pm to Kinderman
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extremely well regarded in that building and very well known because he previously worked there.
Well of course
Posted on 1/9/25 at 8:21 pm to sportsfan
quote:having an owner that doesn’t micromanage and meddle with personnel decisions but is also willing to spend money is probably a plus to certain coaches.
But is it more coveted than the other openings around the league?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:36 pm to dcw7g
I guess that makes sense. As long as they get Loomis to agree to go into tank mode for a year or 2 to clean up the salary cap situation and just deal with the pain of sucking now instead of continuing to restructure deals that improve the short term in exchange for mortgaging the future.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:41 pm to Tiger Prawn
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I guess that makes sense. As long as they get Loomis to agree to go into tank mode for a year or 2 to clean up the salary cap situation and just deal with the pain of sucking now instead of continuing to restructure deals that improve the short term in exchange for mortgaging the future.
Yeah, that's a great way to sell yourself for the job.
"Hey, I'll take the job, but only if you purposefully provide me as little assets as possible so that we can have a better cap and better draft picks. And you don't blame me when we only win 3 games each of the next 2 years. Only under those conditions will I take this job."
Some of you people are incredibly dense.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:27 am to bstaceyau19
Ok, then lets keep doing it the way Loomis has been doing it....
Keep restructuring contracts to make a little bit of cap space for a team that's nowhere near contending for anything. Keep kicking the can down the road. Then you can make sure your roster is good enough to still win 6 or 7 games. You still aren't a contender or making the playoffs, you're not drafting in a good position to try to get a franchise QB, and the coach is still going to get fired by year 4 because you're not making the playoffs.
The Saints have $50M in dead cap money for 2026 just from void years on contracts because Loomis was kicking the can down the road the past couple of years on teams that weren't even close to being legit contenders.
All those salary cap games were fine when we still had Brees and a roster around him that was expected to win 11-12 games every year and be a legit threat to make another Super Bowl run.
Keep restructuring contracts to make a little bit of cap space for a team that's nowhere near contending for anything. Keep kicking the can down the road. Then you can make sure your roster is good enough to still win 6 or 7 games. You still aren't a contender or making the playoffs, you're not drafting in a good position to try to get a franchise QB, and the coach is still going to get fired by year 4 because you're not making the playoffs.
The Saints have $50M in dead cap money for 2026 just from void years on contracts because Loomis was kicking the can down the road the past couple of years on teams that weren't even close to being legit contenders.
All those salary cap games were fine when we still had Brees and a roster around him that was expected to win 11-12 games every year and be a legit threat to make another Super Bowl run.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 11:30 am
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