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re: Eric Morris from UNT

Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:20 am to
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
Southlake, Texas
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:20 am to
Why do I get Johnny Jones vibes when I hear UNT.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:20 am to
He’s a disciple of a tried & true offensive system that has worked all over CFB. The variation he is running is the best version of air raid that I’ve seen. The defense has no clue where the ball is going.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162153 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:22 am to
I like him but I agree with that you said in an earlier post, he's never the type we pursue. Maybe Kelly should serve as an example as to why we should break from that criterion...but I digress
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2334 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:24 am to
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why not a coordinator at a P4 school?


Completely agree. I think the quality of program they come from and all of the expectations that come with it really is a big factor in determining whether a coach will have success or not.

I believe coaches who have had success as a HC at a G5 program, recruiting that level of player, hiring that level of staff, playing that level of competition, and dealing with that level of donors, administration, media scrutiny, etc are behind in relevant experience to coordinators who have been at P4 programs and coached under successful P4 coaches. I think the data proves this with the most successful P4 coaches right now all having made the direct jump at their schools from a coordinator position. There are outliers in each line of thought, but I think the safer play is definitely the coordinator route if a successful P4 HC is not an option.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:26 am to
Yeah they won’t touch him J. I don’t trust any of the decision makers so it will be interesting if they strike out on Kiffin
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162153 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:28 am to
they'll go safe for Drink I have no doubt
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2334 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:30 am to
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He’s a disciple of a tried & true offensive system that has worked all over CFB


Has it? Who is the most successful air raid HC and what has he won?

I don't disagree that it racks up yards and points but the Air Raid has been around for a long time with a lot of branches on that coaching tree and I don't believe there are any rings to go with it. Or any major conference championships.
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1400 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:31 am to
I'm in a research field and it was always taught to us that you look at 3 years worth of data before making an assumption.... Don't judge anything, anything, off of 1 year of data.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13933 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:33 am to
He’s making the CFP.

He’ll be our top 3 option if Kiffin declines
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
87210 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:35 am to
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I'm in a research field and it was always taught to us that you look at 3 years worth of data before making an assumption.... Don't judge anything, anything, off of 1 year of data.


According to the data, he is a much better offensive coach than Lane is
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45008 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:35 am to
I wouldn't be mad. Unfortunately, I dont have the power to hire or fire coaches. I am just a message board poster.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26932 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:37 am to
I wonder if Morris's next move is to become OC at a P4 school for a defensive minded head coach...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288714 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:40 am to
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Has it? Who is the most successful air raid HC and what has he won?


I don’t know if this is a rhetorical question or not. But There is plenty of literature on it. The Athletic did a great piece on it a few years ago. The impact the offense has had on CFB is undeniable. A lot of the times there were no resources available to have a matching, supportive defense.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9661 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:42 am to
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I wonder if Morris's next move is to become OC at a P4 school for a defensive minded head coach...


Or to another 'Green' school that could double his salary and give him more resources..........
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
2344 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:45 am to
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Eric Morris from UNT
Foghorn18
Young, innovative and scoring mega points weekly
And would probably bring his quaterback with him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467497 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:45 am to
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Has it? Who is the most successful air raid HC and what has he won?


The Air Raid has had major success as far back as the Oklahoma teams in the early 00s. Their title in 2000 was a year after Leach left for Texas Tech and Mark Mangino was their OC.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467497 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:46 am to
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But There is plenty of literature on it. The Athletic did a great piece on it a few years ago. The impact the offense has had on CFB is undeniable.

Not just CFB. Mike Leach is the most important offensive football coach since Bill Walsh. He's in the pantheon of offensive impact coaches.
Posted by Beef Supreme
Member since Apr 2008
2334 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:54 am to
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I don’t know if this is a rhetorical question or not.


It wasn't. It was an honest question. I cannot name you the most successful coach from that Mumme/Leach tree. Leach? Dykes made the CFP Final and suffered the biggest loss on that stage - but he still made it there.

My point is that it's a great offense but the coaches who have been given opportunities at P4 schools haven't panned out. You say there hasn't been resources for a comparable defense but that is to say schools like A&M, Miss St, WVU, UK, and Tenn don't have resources to field a competitive team on both sides of the ball. Or that NFL teams who have hired Kingsbury don't have the resources to field a defense.

Let the air raid gurus run the offenses. Let someone else be the HC. That's all I'm saying. I have no problem with Morris being our OC.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by Foghorn18
Member since Feb 2025
141 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:55 am to
Then maybe we need to stop thinking we have to hire a proven name and “whale” bc ultimately taking a chance on a young guy that’s not proven so to speak could turn out great.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20616 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:01 am to
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Because he’s had like 3 winning seasons in 7 years of head coaching


IW had never made the playoffs before him. He brought them there twice and got them their first playoff win

North Texas has never had a double digit win season in their entire history, he's about to give them that.

There are things to give pause about such as defense, and the pressure of all that comes with a big time job and the politics involved that he has no experience dealing with. I'm not saying he should be the top candidate. But there's room for nuance regarding his coaching record, he's elevated both places he's coached at to heights they've never been before and has an impressive history of QBs he's found and coached. Sorry it took some time to build up the garbage programs he was at?
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