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re: Do it, O... make the call to your buddy Kiffin...

Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:25 pm to
dan enos, central michigan HC to arkansas as OC
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:26 pm to
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Has a college HC ever resigned to become a college OC before?



Pretty sure Enos did it to be the OC for Bert
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
21178 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:34 pm to
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Kiffin knows Saban. Knows how to scheme against him and beat him. At LSU, he’ll have the players to do it.

If this year taught us anything, anything at all, it's that we dont have the players to compete with Bama. Stop fooling yourselves. We dont have the players or depth to beat them and a OC wont magically solve that.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162829 posts
Posted on 11/26/18 at 10:36 pm to
If that was the plan, why give Steve a two year deal?

In reality O wanted Ensminger the whole time, he floats some names he knows our nazi like compliance dept. will never approve (freeze, briles) and then says well Steve is clearly the best man for this job that we can get.

Steve’s promotion was one of self preservation for O, he knew he’s not even close to the best man for the job, but the safest choice for him. His offense does just enough to get O to 8-9 wins and get to that extension our idiotic admins will inevitably give to him.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:03 pm to
Steve also makes a convenient sacrificial lamb in the event O starts catching heat. Blame Steve, hopefully buy himself another year.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:27 pm to
Do you think he went to FAU expecting to never have a losing season?

Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36185 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:17 am to
Remember when we hired O with the wink-wink promise that Kiffin would be our OC?

I member!
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:26 am to
That was O’s friend Lane getting in on the con game. He was never coming to LSU as OC.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:32 am to
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This is a sad thread. When did you guys get an opening at OC?


Ensminger didn't want the job and has been pretty terrible.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84534 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:56 am to
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NO ONE, has a bigger axe to grind against Saban than Kiffin


What exactly did saban do to him?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162829 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:06 am to
Rehabilitated his career
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:36 am to
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Also, if it's such an inconsequential thread and topic, why waste your time posting in it?


Because bama fans always have to make everything about themselves.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35732 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 9:59 am to
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Because bama fans always have to make everything about themselves.



But not the LSU fans bringing up Bama and Saban as "reasons" Kiffin would take a step down to be LSU's OC?

Riiiight.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27754 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:12 am to
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But not the LSU fans bringing up Bama and Saban as "reasons" Kiffin would take a step down to be LSU's OC?



Actually the main reason given in this thread is that he and O are buddies, which they are. The rest is all supplemental. Furthermore, given the facts that LSU would pay him more and he went a scintillating 5-7 this year, taking an OC position at a high profile school may not actually be a demotion.

Going to FAU was a mistake.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35732 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:34 am to
It's a world of what have you done for me lately, but Kiffin went 11-3 at FAU his first year. 5-7 doesn't wipe that away, it's better than any record they had under Patridge for 3 years. Hell, it's their 3rd best finish this decade behind Kiffin's 11-3 and a 6-6 under Carl Pelini.

He had really bad QBs issues this year, but folks are acting like he should tuck his tail and run because he didn't take them on an UCF run. At this point he needs experience showing he can help build a program, because he has shown he can't maintain one at USC. He has to eventually show he has grown as a HC, cutting bait won't do that.

Saban/Bama, which anyone can admit is superior to LSU/Coach O at this time, only got Kiffin to FAU. Not sure dropping down to a place like LSU is gonna launch him to a bigger school...
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27754 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 10:59 am to
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Saban/Bama, which anyone can admit is superior to LSU/Coach O at this time, only got Kiffin to FAU. Not sure dropping down to a place like LSU is gonna launch him to a bigger school...


Kiffin may just be one of those guys who just isn't good in a HC position. There is quite a bit of evidence to support this. And with regard to going to "a place like LSU" STFU dude all the pieces and parts are in place minus a competent OC with a modern and effective offense.

You really think it would be a blow to his career if, hypothetically speaking, he came to LSU and was able to finally fix our offense after over a decade of everyone seeing how shitty it's been? That'd be the biggest feather in his professional cap to this point at "a place like LSU."
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35732 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:47 am to
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Kiffin may just be one of those guys who just isn't good in a HC position. There is quite a bit of evidence to support this


And there's also plenty of evidence that he wants to be a HC, it feeds his ego.

quote:

. And with regard to going to "a place like LSU" STFU dude


Don't take it so personal, my comment was directed more towards the hypothetical job opening. "A place like LSU" isn't having a HC opening like a lot of schools, it might have an OC opening.

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, he came to LSU and was able to finally fix our offense after over a decade of everyone seeing how shitty it's been?


Same shite, different day. Every OC was suppose to do this for LSU, yet it's the same. Starts at the top.
Posted by Captain Ron
Location: Ted's
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:50 am to
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make the call to your buddy Kiffin... by MarlinMan


FAU's offense struggled this year without Briles leading it.

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64329 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:06 pm to
No. Stop asking for more pro style coordinators. Only HUNH spread.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64329 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:09 pm to
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FAU's offense struggled this year without Briles leading it.


Of course it did. Kiffin doesnt run a spread. Kiffin also struggled at times while he was at Bama. Also USC struggled offensively while Kiffin was the HC.


Its walking into another Cam Cameron Matt Canada scenario. A big name that doesnt run a modern offense.


Hire a guy who runs a modern offense. If LSU fails to do that then they will lose for the 9th time in a row to Alabama.
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