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re: Do any of you here truly believe Miles gets rid of GC?

Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:10 pm to
Crowton deserved this year. He was still under contract and who knows how good the offense would have been under Perrilloux. His contract is now up, we have had problems 3 straight years and there appear to be better OCs available this year than last year.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16957 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:11 pm to
If I am not mistaken, Crowton's contract is up. If this is the case, they will not renew it and will go after someone else (not Leach).

I wouldn't be surprised to see them go after (1) Oky States OC, (2) Boise's OC, (3) Major Applewhite, or another to be named later.

I don't think that Crowton is retained and I would think he probably knows it. I am sure that Miles is affording him the opportunity to try to find another job so as not to have another fired on his resume.

I would assume by early to mid January, we will have a new OC in place. I think Stud will be gone. I think that BG will be gone as well. I hope we retain Frank Wilson though.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:11 pm to
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problem is qb wont improve enough. gary can't coach a qb to save his life. we might improve but it wont be much if we still have 0 passing threat


true...but if Les thinks his time here is short, he may think he has a better shot at winning a championship in 2011 with the current line-up vs. breaking in a new system. (although he's already won one with a first year OC...ironically)
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37970 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

I don't think the Leach talk is any more than messege board chatter.


Nuh uh. Below Par said so.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:12 pm to
fairly certain Crowton has 1 more year...
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16957 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:17 pm to
I think the offensive problems go beyond Crowton. Stud and Gonzalez need to get the ax, even if Crowton is somehow retained. I have been an LSU fan for a long, long time and I never remember our receivers dropping so many passes. Obviously, they our QBs are not SEC caliber but the WRs dropped a ton of catchable balls.

I still think the OL grossly underperformed as well. Both losses this year are directly attributable to horrible OL play. Stud has been horrible since getting here and needs to leave.

Wilson is a recruiting machine and I was very pleased with the RBs this year. He is the best offensive staff person we have.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4256 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:20 pm to
I do.

There were excuses aplenty to keep Crowton after last year:
1. He had a young QB two years in a row
2. The O-Line was performing horribly, and with another year might be better able to run his scheme
3. The AD didn't want to foot the bill for his buyout
4. He recieved the benefit of the doubt for his job in 07.

None of those excuses apply to this year. If anyone thinks Miles is happy with the offensive production, they are kidding themselves and/or letting their Miles hatred blind them.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49928 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:26 pm to
If I had anything to do with we would. But I don't so I would say 90% chance he stays.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Nuh uh. Below Par said so


So the enlightened one has spoken? I'm glad that he has come out of his slumber. Once a year, belowpar awakens along with the coaching changes board.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Obviously, they our QBs are not SEC caliber but the WRs dropped a ton of catchable balls.


I'd like to see the stats as far as drops this year in comparison to recent years. I know Toliver dropped a few, but I will give Gonzo a pass on Shep this year because he is not a natural receiver and has little experience there.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:36 pm to
I remain optimistic about Miles and his tenure at LSU.

I do think he will make a change.

If he doesn't, I'll become a lot more skeptical about the future of the program (though I won't abandon all hope like many).
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Obviously, they our QBs are not SEC caliber but the WRs dropped a ton of catchable balls.


I'd like to see the stats as far as drops this year in comparison to recent years. I know Toliver dropped a few, but I will give Gonzo a pass on Shep this year because he is not a natural receiver and has little experience there.

We also need to see his evaluation/recruitment of WRs. The first month he was here, he targeted Kadron Boone and Armand Williams as guys that deserved an offer. Let's see how they develop.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:40 pm to
I don't know why everyone wants Billy gone. WRs were maybe slightly disappointing, but hard to put it on them. Randle had few opportunities, but maximized them.

I'm not sure TT was ever the player we thought he would be (though super talented).

Shep is still learning WR.

Gonzo is probably our best recruiter on staff with Wilson and Miles with the added bonus of Florida connections. I don't think the job he did this year is deserving of a firing...
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33918 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Do any of you here truly believe Miles gets rid of GC?


This question belongs up there with this one:

Do any of you here truly believe that Mettenberger would actually be given the chance to start in front of Jefferson next year if he came here?


The offense is going to suck for at least one more year. Get prepared. Get used to it.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28132 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:03 pm to
Nope. I lost hope when he didn't fire him last year. He pulled the trigger on Mallveto, why not do the same with Crowton. He is here to stay until Miles is fired.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:10 pm to
I hope he does, but don't think he will.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19693 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:12 pm to
Why are you guys so goofy about this. 10-2 keeps Les in great standing. The offensive rank is not good enough for the 2nd year in a row. Les probably went to GC last year but I'll bet Les will be told to make a change. There's too many offensive problems
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95099 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

So the enlightened one has spoken? I'm glad that he has come out of his slumber. Once a year, belowpar awakens along with the coaching changes board.


All belowpar said was that Miles wanted him. Nothing more, nothing less.

People are trying to put words in his posts and make him sound like he's wrong every time he posts.

Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19693 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:13 pm to
Mett is coming, GC is gone
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 3:14 pm to
He better is all I can say. He really frickin better.
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