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re: Colorado has fired Jon Embree after two seasons

Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17899 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:20 pm to
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Nothing's worked well for WAZZU since Gesser left.

FIFY

Btw, CU should go after Andersen at Utah State.
Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:48 pm to
From the Denver Post when it hired Embree two years ago...
quote:

Colorado's original "A" list, sources said, consisted of LSU coach Les Miles, Air Force coach Troy Calhoun and former Oregon coach Mike Bellotti, none of whom it could get interested in the position.

Read more: Jon Embree to be next head coach of Colorado Buffaloes - The Denver Post LINK
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: LINK
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13692 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:06 am to
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KNOCK IT OFF
Posted by ornagestorm
Oregon
Member since Jun 2008
5105 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:18 am to
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Btw, CU should go after Andersen at Utah State.


Think Cal will go after him.

Colorado would be happy with somebody from Eastern Washington or North Dakota State. Whomever gets hired should insist on a big payout for the first couple years though.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95097 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:51 am to
I'm going throw out a name one has yet for Colorado. I think Willie Fritz could be a good candidate here as well.

If you never heard of him, look him up.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 4:18 pm to
Screw this BS. He was given a raw deal and was f-cked by the admin from the get go.


He came into a huge mess post Hawkins and had no realistic shot at early success.

The facilities are behind most Pac12 teams partially due to all the campus rape issues the last several years destroying alumni giving.

He had the smallest budget of BCS teams for his coaching staff and was the lowest HC salary out of all BCS schools. He only made 750k per year which is lower than many Sun Belt HCs and even some coordinators at BCS schools.

Plus they are a state with little talent to recruit from and they are transitioning to Cali from Texas as their major source of players which takes time due to having to build relationships with all the high school coaches.

They seemed to be slowly improving by the end of the year (especially when Hirschman became starting QB) and he has done an excellent job restoring the teams reputation by getting their grades way up and getting rid of thug trouble makers that had been causing so many issues over the years.


BTW, you people who think he was hired b/c he is black are idiots.


That school is going to be a graveyard until the admin actually gets behind the team and shells out the money for facilities and a budget that allows the HC to hire the staff he wants.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 4:26 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80939 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 4:27 pm to
Nobody's going to argue that Colorado doesn't handcuff the football program but he was a career position coach that was a crap hire to being with. A 4-21 start isn't going to get you year 3 at most schools.
quote:

They seemed to be slowly improving by the end of the year

They lost to Washington 38-3 two weeks ago. Just because they stayed close to crappy Utah doesn't mean they've improved.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 4:30 pm to
I watched every game this year as both my sisters and GF all went there.

Does that score look bad? Sure. But they were slowly getting better. The offense was awful vs Wash due in large part to Hirchsman being injured. Once they let the sophomore take the reins from junior transfer Jordan Webb the offense started to come around.

They simply do not have the talent to compete right now and that is directly related to how horrible Hawk was at bringing in worthwhile talent.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 4:34 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17899 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 4:47 pm to
Hawkins didn't leave much for Embree to work with, but didn't he have a lot of assistants leave during his tenure largely due to relatively low salaries?

I don't know if that's true or not. I just remember Tom Luginbill mentioning on Signing Day one year that Hawk had trouble convincing talent to come to CU because he couldn't convince members of his coaching staff to stay.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:02 pm to
CU does not pay their assistants well at all. You are absolutely correct.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
39412 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:30 pm to
This basically sums up CU right now

quote:

Bruce Feldman ?@BFeldmanCBS
CU's commitment? Embree bought the coaches water daily. The athletic dept wouldn't even pay for it, per a source.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86519 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:09 pm to
Emotional farewell video LINK
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56720 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:16 pm to
Seems like a good guy. Good video.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131108 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 7:33 pm to
Is the financial situation at CU really bad to where the Athletic Dept. won't even buy water for coaches?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61612 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:26 pm to
BTW, CU only had 8 seniors this year. It was their youngest team since 1996.


some internet chatter has them going after fat Mangino.

I guess he might be desperate enough to take the low pay they will surely offer.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 10:46 pm
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