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Belowpar? What the heck?
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:32 pm
Just yesterday you were telling us about replacements for Crowton.
Now, Crowton says he's staying.
What gives? Did something change or is Crowton completely wrong?
Now, Crowton says he's staying.
What gives? Did something change or is Crowton completely wrong?
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Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:37 pm to AlaTiger
Crowton says that he expects to stay, not that he IS staying. Big difference.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:37 pm to AlaTiger
quote:He said that Miles was fishing for replacements.
Just yesterday you were telling us about replacements for Crowton.
I imagine it was in case Crowton left.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:37 pm to AlaTiger
Just shows you that no one knows shite !!!
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:40 pm to Roaad
quote:
He said that Miles was fishing for replacements.
I imagine it was in case Crowton left.
He also said that Les did the same thing last year (look for replacements) and could very well end up doing the same thing this year. That is, keep Gary. No wonder Belowpar gets a bad wrap. There are some seriously short retention going on around here.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:41 pm to gotboost02
NO
He said its not a sure thing that Crouton would be leaving
Said that Les did some talking last year but did not overly like any particular candidate
Was doing the same this year.
BP warned that Crowton might actually stay. IF, like last year, Les wasnt overwhelmed by any one candidate.
Reading Comprehension People
USE IT
He said its not a sure thing that Crouton would be leaving
Said that Les did some talking last year but did not overly like any particular candidate
Was doing the same this year.
BP warned that Crowton might actually stay. IF, like last year, Les wasnt overwhelmed by any one candidate.
Reading Comprehension People
USE IT
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:42 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
Reading Comprehension People
USE IT
Yeah no shite. It's selective reading for the rantards.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:42 pm to MoreOrLes
still very disconcerting that it's not a sure thing gary is leaving. this should be a no brainer.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:43 pm to Brageous
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:45 pm to Linkovich
quote:
There are some seriously short retention going on around here.
It's truly remarkable.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:45 pm to 1999
quote:
still very disconcerting that it's not a sure thing gary is leaving. this should be a no brainer.
Couldn't be said any better. Well, maybe if you typed it a bit angrier.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:46 pm to 1999
Seriously, which of you would EXPECT Crowton to say "Oh, no. I am going to be fired!"
Really??
He is under contract and working at LSU NOW. He is preparing for a bowl game and is involved (minimally) in recruiting. Yet, you guys think he is going to say "I will NOT be back next season"? If you had another year on your contract, YOU would do nothing to give cause for termination. You would say EXACTLY what he is saying. Then, IF you get fired, you still collect the money.
JEEBUS!!!
BTW, which one of you thinks this is the final word?
Sometimes, I hate us!
Really??
He is under contract and working at LSU NOW. He is preparing for a bowl game and is involved (minimally) in recruiting. Yet, you guys think he is going to say "I will NOT be back next season"? If you had another year on your contract, YOU would do nothing to give cause for termination. You would say EXACTLY what he is saying. Then, IF you get fired, you still collect the money.
JEEBUS!!!
BTW, which one of you thinks this is the final word?
Sometimes, I hate us!
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:48 pm to AlaTiger
What do you expect Crowton to come out and say... "I don't expect that I'll be at LSU next year, the fans don't want me back, the head coach doesn't want me back. i'm not sure what I'm going to do, but I don't expect to be back at LSU next year."
I'm not saying Crowton is gone, but I don't think him coming out and saying that he expects to be back next year means anything at all.
I'm not saying Crowton is gone, but I don't think him coming out and saying that he expects to be back next year means anything at all.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:51 pm to AlaTiger
these types of things are fluid. what is true today can change tonight.
unless miles himself makes a post on here noone really knows until its done, but we sometimes hear info on situations. just because its true then does not mean it cant or wont change
unless miles himself makes a post on here noone really knows until its done, but we sometimes hear info on situations. just because its true then does not mean it cant or wont change
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:54 pm to dmitch
Even you are on the edge of your seat with this...
Miles is completely stubborn and blind if he can't see that Crowton is a huge contribution in this stagnant offense. The facts are all there through his entire career. LSU has had a stagnant offense since the second half of 08 and is loaded with blue chip players like Rueben and RS, yet we're horrible?
I find it hard to believe our entire 5 star WR group refuses to just develop and they're all turning into "busts"...
...Or maybe Miles is more to blame on the offense than Crowton. Who really knows...
Miles is completely stubborn and blind if he can't see that Crowton is a huge contribution in this stagnant offense. The facts are all there through his entire career. LSU has had a stagnant offense since the second half of 08 and is loaded with blue chip players like Rueben and RS, yet we're horrible?
I find it hard to believe our entire 5 star WR group refuses to just develop and they're all turning into "busts"...
...Or maybe Miles is more to blame on the offense than Crowton. Who really knows...
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:54 pm to dmitch
quote:
these types of things are fluid. what is true today can change tonight.
Absolutely, I've gotten to the point where I don't buy anything on the coaching changes board until something comes up on ESPN or SI's site as a done deal.
Until then, it's all speculation.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:55 pm to dmitch
quote:
these types of things are fluid. what is true today can change tonight.
I hope you're right in this instance. For our entire team's sake.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:56 pm to dmitch
FWIW, I'm in the minority here, but I know a close friend of Crowtons and from all the discussions I've had with him regarding Crowton, I truly believe Crowton is a bright offensive mind.
I just don't think Crowton holds his players accountable as much as some coaches and I also think he's kind of a pushover and that lack of urgency and that lack of fear players are supposed to have of letting down their coach sometimes shows on the field with his players IMO. He also doesn't seem to be very good at developing QBs. (Pelini is the exact opposite of Crowton in terms of style...Pelini isn't the brightest Xs and Os coach but he holds his players accountable and absolutely refuses to accept failure from his players as where Crowton is more of a nurturer and hand-holder). IMO niether Pelini's nor Crowton's style is the right style...you need to be somewhere in the middle to have long-term success.
If he would ever lose the pride and allow someone else(preferably a hard-arse) to come in and coach the QBs, I believe Crowton could do well focusing on just the playcalling. Because I truly believe he has a bright mind when it comes to game-planning and play calling.
Also, from what I hear, when it comes to Crowton and Miles within the locker room, Miles is actually supposedly the "hard arse" and Crowton is supposedly the good cop when it comes to players, etc. I know that's hard to believe as most think Miles is such a mild-mannered good guy, but I've heard from multiple sources that Miles often is the bad cop and Crowton is the good cop and it actually kinda works well together.
I just don't think Crowton holds his players accountable as much as some coaches and I also think he's kind of a pushover and that lack of urgency and that lack of fear players are supposed to have of letting down their coach sometimes shows on the field with his players IMO. He also doesn't seem to be very good at developing QBs. (Pelini is the exact opposite of Crowton in terms of style...Pelini isn't the brightest Xs and Os coach but he holds his players accountable and absolutely refuses to accept failure from his players as where Crowton is more of a nurturer and hand-holder). IMO niether Pelini's nor Crowton's style is the right style...you need to be somewhere in the middle to have long-term success.
If he would ever lose the pride and allow someone else(preferably a hard-arse) to come in and coach the QBs, I believe Crowton could do well focusing on just the playcalling. Because I truly believe he has a bright mind when it comes to game-planning and play calling.
Also, from what I hear, when it comes to Crowton and Miles within the locker room, Miles is actually supposedly the "hard arse" and Crowton is supposedly the good cop when it comes to players, etc. I know that's hard to believe as most think Miles is such a mild-mannered good guy, but I've heard from multiple sources that Miles often is the bad cop and Crowton is the good cop and it actually kinda works well together.
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:56 pm to deuce985
quote:
Even you are on the edge of your seat with this...
tell me about it. i remember seeing a thread last year about crowton leaving and the source was a guy named tim or something. i came on and said he was staying from what my family was told and was almost ran off.
i know to keep quiet now
Posted on 12/1/10 at 4:58 pm to JPLSU1981
i agree with you, i have been in the wr meeting room with him while he was teaching and designing plays.
dont know why it cant be all put together
dont know why it cant be all put together
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