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re: Art Briles vs. Kendall Briles...who would you take?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:28 pm to
Either one. He will be hired as an OC not a head coach.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:29 pm to
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baylor had 5th ranked total offense per game
exactly...that is the complete opposite of "not good"
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:29 pm to
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but what did Briles do?


LINK

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In at least one case, Baylor regents said, Mr. Briles knew about an alleged incident and didn’t alert police, the school’s judicial-affairs staff or the Title IX office in charge of coordinating the school’s response to sexual violence.


This is from the INDEPENDENT law firm who conducted the investigation.

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Baylor failed to take appropriate action to respond to reports of sexual assault and dating violence reportedly committed by football players. The choices made by football staff and athletics leadership, in some instances, posed a risk to campus safety an d the integrity of the University. In certain instances, including reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, athletics and football personnel affirmatively chose not to report sexual violence and dating violence to an appropriate administr ator outside of athletics. In those instances, football coaches or staff met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct. As a result, no action was taken to support complainants, fairly and impartially evaluate the conduct under Title IX, address identified cultural concerns within the football program, or protect campus safety once aware of a potential pattern of sexual violence by multiple football players. 10


I truly do not understand how anyone would be considering this guy.
Posted by LSUFootballFANATIC
Way Up North
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:31 pm to
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:33 pm to
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Whats the deal with this guy?? Why so much love for him? Seems a couple rungs down the ladder to me...
Gets cut at NC State to wind up at Pitt....


Seriously man. Go research the guy. You guys are reading a wiki paragraph and dismissing him. Why does he seem a couple rungs down the ladder? Specifically tell me why he is not a great OC.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
92362 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:33 pm to
Kendall. Less baggage
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:35 pm to
Neither. Art is an obvious no. And I don't like the idea of taking a OC that was running someone else's system. Kind of reminds me of Crowton running Jimbo's offense in 2007.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:36 pm to
So he had his personnel do it for him. Plausible deniability. Why don't you read about all of his personell involved in this. So he is either too stupid to figure out what's happening in his own program or he willfully ignored it while letting his staff handle it. What a great guy!
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:37 pm to
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LSUFootballFANATIC


That is a quote from his lawyer, you dumb frick.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
6055 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:38 pm to
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I truly do not understand how anyone would be considering this guy.




My stance is that its not the football coaches job to be a message relayer btw accuser and authorities.... Why is the accuser relying on Briles to do smthg in the first place??? Go to authorities like maybe if it WASNT a football player. Just a thought.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
17072 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:43 pm to
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Baylor failed to take appropriate action to respond to reports of sexual assault and dating violence reportedly committed by football players. The choices made by football staff and athletics leadership, in some instances, posed a risk to campus safety an d the integrity of the University. In certain instances, including reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, athletics and football personnel affirmatively chose not to report sexual violence and dating violence to an appropriate administr ator outside of athletics. In those instances, football coaches or staff met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct. As a result, no action was taken to support complainants, fairly and impartially evaluate the conduct under Title IX, address identified cultural concerns within the football program, or protect campus safety once aware of a potential pattern of sexual violence by multiple football players. 10



Briles' involvement aside, who the hell are these people that don't report rape to the police, but instead go to the football coach?

Why is it up to a coach whether sexual assault makes it to the authorities or not?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:51 pm to
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My stance is that its not the football coaches job to be a message relayer btw accuser and authorities.... Why is the accuser relying on Briles to do smthg in the first place??? Go to authorities like maybe if it WASNT a football player. Just a thought.


Wow...

1) you're wrong. It IS most definitely on the coach to report it. If you would have read the fact finding report you would know this. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE IN THIS MESS! They didn't report it ffs.

2) victim blame. Seems par for the course for Briles supporters.

3) they DID go to the police and the police pushed the reports down as well.

LINK
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2602 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:53 pm to
We can spend around 2.2 million for our OC, make Kendall the OC and let dad work with him. Get both
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:56 pm to
Jfc, you people are sad. Actually read reports, interviews, and do some research before blaming victims.

LINK

I mean how is any of this the victims fault. They reported it and it was not handled properly. Period. One victim was a female athlete so there's motivation to report it to your coach, which she did. Then from there it was pushed down and nothing was done.

Seriously...are you trying to put blame on a rape victim for the Baylor personnel problems? This is getting fricking sad.
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
6055 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Seriously...are you trying to put blame on a rape victim for the Baylor personnel problems? This is getting fricking sad.



No, I'm not. Just saying it shouldnt have been reported to a football coach first. Thats common sense I'd think. Theres just as many false rape allegations as actual rapes these days so you want Briles to automatically jump on board ruining one of his kids lives if he has zero proof presented to him...???? Thats not his job or place. If some girl calls you or sends an email or smthg and says 'your son raped me...do something about it." Speaking for me I'm not doing a damn thing until you show me some kind of proof.

Not saying its victims fault, but I find it hard to totally berate Briles when hes put in a difficult situation with not much to go on, with so much at stake.
By the way, Jameis Winston is suing the girl that falsely accused him of rape...... and I freaking really dislike Jameis. You cant take everything to the bank nowadays

Obviously, if it was indeed rape, thats awful and Briles paid the price. But youre acting as if he was in the room and was throwing hush money at them or smthg.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:16 pm to
Both will be fine. I forgive him.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Speaking for me I'm not doing a damn thing until you show me some kind of proof.


So when it's your daughter and she says she was raped your gonna say well nothing we can do about it unless you show me some proof. Sorry sweetheart looks like you're a liar.

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so you want Briles to automatically jump on board ruining one of his kids lives if he has zero proof presented to him...???? Thats not his job or place.


Dude...are you not reading anything i posted here or the links provided? It is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT his job and place to report it. THIS IS WHY BAYLOR IS IN THE shite RIGHT NOW! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TEXT YOU ARE READING???

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Not saying its victims fault, but I find it hard to totally berate Briles when hes put in a difficult situation with not much to go on, with so much at stake.


Lmao. You're sad. Yes you are blaming the victim and he had plenty to go on. Enough that these players are going to fricking jail.

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Obviously, if it was indeed rape, thats awful and Briles paid the price. But youre acting as if he was in the room and was throwing hush money at them or smthg.


Briles, Baylor, and the AD ALL mishandled the situation. I mean are you just making shite up as you go here? It's a bit hard to take you seriously when you have obviously done zero reading on anything that has happened.

Your whole premise is "Girl may not be raped. Girls lie. Coach no need report rape. Girl should report rape to police."

All of this shite is wrong and made up. READ THE DOCUMENTS.


Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
16061 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:19 pm to
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Both will be fine. I forgive him



Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109170 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:21 pm to
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who the hell are these people that don't report rape to the police, but instead go to the football coach?


This, and I'm not excusing Briles, but how do you not go to the police?
Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
6055 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 2:24 pm to
I'm reading it. I'm saying Briles shouldnt have been put in position to do what they wanted him to do. Unless he was presented the full docket before the police were (which is impossible) then youre asking him to be judge & jury with zero proof.

He ultimately made the wrong call, but it cant be held against him for forever. He wasnt there and hes being asked to turn on his kids with no proof. You sit behind your computer screen all righteous but youre not understanding the position he was put in.

Like I said, he made the wrong call and he's paid for it. But dont act like hes the devils spawn for lack of action with lack of proof
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 2:26 pm
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