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Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:06 pm to The Egg
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he was bad at OU.
He was also terrible at Ohio State.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Who needs offensive or defensive lineman and linebackers when you have 25 5 star receivers on your team 
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:33 pm to ODP
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A meaningless bowl game isn't getting him fired.
Maybe not.
But getting embarrassed in the Pac 12 CG and nearly dropping the ball multiple times this season might do it.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In general the whole "head coach who doesn't care about defense" meme never made sense to me, but it seems like Riley wants super soft (and ineffective) stuff.
I wonder if this is a metrics/analytics thing or what.
I think he believes that his offensive acumen is so great that he can simply out scheme opposing defenses to the point that he could out score any opponent.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:53 pm to TulaneFan
Obviously USC's defense was Swiss Cheese yesterday. And the kid returning the kick-off screwed up. But Riley only has himself to blame for calling a hand-off six yards deep in his own end zone. He is doing himself and his QB's a disservice by never having them go under center.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:57 pm to The Egg
Worked out what deal? His agent is the one who floated the Riley stuff. LSU was never interested in him but his agent who also knew about BK, used LSU as leverage to get more out of USC because it was a prime opening job that could bend USC over as leverage. His agent used his knowings of LSU's interest in BK to bend USC over backwards and it worked.
LSU never was interested in anyone other than BK because they had him locked in and nobody knew about it. All those leaks about LSU interest in coaches was agents using LSU as leverage to get money elsewhere using a prime opening job to do it. Woody bamboozled all the boosters and LSU admin.
LSU never was interested in anyone other than BK because they had him locked in and nobody knew about it. All those leaks about LSU interest in coaches was agents using LSU as leverage to get money elsewhere using a prime opening job to do it. Woody bamboozled all the boosters and LSU admin.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:00 pm to deuce985
The level of CCB revisionism on LSU fans being downright giddy about the potential of getting Riley to now thinking he's a worthless bum who can't coach is pretty funny.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:04 pm to usc6158
Where did I say he can't coach? What the hell are you talking about? I'm saying LSU never even made a run for Riley. It was Trace Armstrong throwing the LSU interest in Riley out to bend your university over for finances. A lot of agents did it because LSU was a top tier job to get their clients more money trying to say LSU was interested in them when they weren't. You really think LSU made a run for guys like Tucker and couldn't snag him away if they wanted to?
They contacted Kelly right after Orgeron was fired in the middle of the season. It wanted to be kept quiet because BK was having a good season with ND so Woody lied to LSU boosters/admin as not to frick the BK deal up. Woody made the boosters show their arse and also probably helped him find where the leaks were with the misinformation.
Trace Armstrong is BK's agent also like Riley. That's where it all came from because he already knew about the LSU deal with BK since he was working it.
They contacted Kelly right after Orgeron was fired in the middle of the season. It wanted to be kept quiet because BK was having a good season with ND so Woody lied to LSU boosters/admin as not to frick the BK deal up. Woody made the boosters show their arse and also probably helped him find where the leaks were with the misinformation.
Trace Armstrong is BK's agent also like Riley. That's where it all came from because he already knew about the LSU deal with BK since he was working it.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:27 pm to footswitch
The 2 play 80 yard drive before the botched fair catch is his fault tho 
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:17 pm to Partha
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I think he believes that his offensive acumen is so great that he can simply out scheme opposing defenses to the point that he could out score any opponent.
But I mean why not have an average D?
I mean Leach got Grinch his rep by just having an average D
He doesn't have to divert equal resources, but just a competent level of resources and attention
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:18 pm to usc6158
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The level of CCB revisionism on LSU fans being downright giddy about the potential of getting Riley to now thinking he's a worthless bum who can't coach is pretty funny.
There are a very few number of guys I'd want over Riley, still. However LA is unnaturally good at producing DL and DB talent, so you have to be bad to field bad defenses here. Like Orgeron-level dumb.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
There's a big factor in the long term here that is getting a bit overlooked even by USC fans. USC's NIL is set up through big brands i.e. Beats by Dre, United Airlines, etc. This works great for Caleb Williams or Addison. They make more money than they would anywhere else.
USC's extremely conservative admin has specifically disauded multiple collectives in favor of a single point for NIL, but that single point is not well set up for high school recruiting or non-skill positions while your competing basically against a mini-Nike operation that is a well oiled machine at Oregon. It's much better for transfers and skill players.
You couple that with the demographic changes in California and it's a tough road ahead for anyone. None of this is really in Riley's control.
USC's extremely conservative admin has specifically disauded multiple collectives in favor of a single point for NIL, but that single point is not well set up for high school recruiting or non-skill positions while your competing basically against a mini-Nike operation that is a well oiled machine at Oregon. It's much better for transfers and skill players.
You couple that with the demographic changes in California and it's a tough road ahead for anyone. None of this is really in Riley's control.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:45 pm to usc6158
How do things look for USC improving their d next year? They get any good recruits or transfers?
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:49 pm to dallastiger55
I haven't followed recruiting closely for years, but weak on the lines for sure.
I'm sure Riley will be trying to backfill from the portal and process a whole bunch of guys.
I'm sure Riley will be trying to backfill from the portal and process a whole bunch of guys.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:53 pm to usc6158
Don't know what Riley does preparation wise but whatever it is, his defenses always stink. There's a constant there where you have to look at Riley as a HC and not just Grinch. Whatever he's doing, he's doing it wrong. He runs great offenses but he has a stigma very similar to Stoops in that in the big games he shits the bed with soft play and he can't field a competent defense. These constants are not stereotypes but rather facts at this point it seems. It stuck with him at OU and it already hit him in year 1 at USC. I'd be concerned about this if I was a USC fan.
It's not going to get easier for them moving to a more competitive conference.
It's not going to get easier for them moving to a more competitive conference.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But I mean why not have an average D?
I mean Leach got Grinch his rep by just having an average D
He doesn't have to divert equal resources, but just a competent level of resources and attention
What you say makes sense, perhaps he's just incapable of pulling it off.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:22 pm to usc6158
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I never wanted Riley, said all along his teams were too soft. He's a QB whisperer and a decent recruiter, but hes not a championship level coach.
He's just replicating at USC what he did at OU, which is win a lot, but never the big prize. But the media hounds will fawn all over him regardless.
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he level of CCB revisionism on LSU fans being downright giddy about the potential of getting Riley to now thinking he's a worthless bum who can't coach is pretty funny.
I never wanted Riley, said all along his teams were too soft. He's a QB whisperer and a decent recruiter, but hes not a championship level coach.
He's just replicating at USC what he did at OU, which is win a lot, but never the big prize. But the media hounds will fawn all over him regardless.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 5:31 pm to TulaneFan
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Over the last 5 seasons, FBS teams were 1-1,692 when trailing by 15 points with less than 5 minutes remaining
This is a crazy stat. Seems like with all the clock stoppages at least a few teams could’ve overcome like a 15 or 16 point lead.
Posted on 1/3/23 at 7:02 pm to St Augustine
I’ll send Pete Golding’s Resume overnight and pay for it.
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