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A couple of first year turnarounds have ruined everyone else
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:43 pm
UCLA and Indiana strikes gold in the portal and everyone thinks now all first year coaches should dominate.
There are significantly more portal failures than portal successes.
Fans do not have patience for a rebuild. They will all point to UCLA.
There are significantly more portal failures than portal successes.
Fans do not have patience for a rebuild. They will all point to UCLA.
Posted on 11/8/26 at 8:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
Its not just the portal. Its the coaching.
UCLA also has a Charmin soft schedule and got Oregon when they were down.
UCLA also has a Charmin soft schedule and got Oregon when they were down.
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:36 am to Cosmo
They’re undefeated and the only two undefeated teams both have first year head coaches. They were good hires. but they’re definitely not the standard people have to have patience.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:38 am
Posted on 11/9/26 at 5:32 am to LSUFanHouston
Indiana was Cigneti’s 2nd year. And he brought all his 25 year old players from James Madison with him. And his team this year isn’t as good.
But I agree, the fans have zero patience and nobody is building a program anymore. Doesn’t help that Dabo is the comparison for the old school way and he’s not doing so well at Clemson at the moment.
But I agree, the fans have zero patience and nobody is building a program anymore. Doesn’t help that Dabo is the comparison for the old school way and he’s not doing so well at Clemson at the moment.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:00 am to LSUFanHouston
People are retarded and think because you have a portal now and spend money it short cuts how you build a program.
Indiana and UCLA both had favorable schedules for year 1 coaching. Cig also brought most of his team up, a team that was good just not able to be top 15 type teams. Well Indiana didn’t beat any in year 1. Last year he plugged a few holes and it was a title.
UCLA looks like it’s a similar path easier schedule, catching some down teams. I don’t know the make up of it and how much came from JMU with him.
Good/great coaches for sure, favorable schedule allows quick turn around and the low expectations.
Football is still 11 on 11, and all the teams competing at the top are spending around the same amount and there is a floor level spending you will need for a title.
Building the program is still going to take time, but people don’t want to hear that. It’s usually the people that have contributed zero extra that are doing the loudest whining though. Someone else spent 40 million but they are the ones upset.
Indiana and UCLA both had favorable schedules for year 1 coaching. Cig also brought most of his team up, a team that was good just not able to be top 15 type teams. Well Indiana didn’t beat any in year 1. Last year he plugged a few holes and it was a title.
UCLA looks like it’s a similar path easier schedule, catching some down teams. I don’t know the make up of it and how much came from JMU with him.
Good/great coaches for sure, favorable schedule allows quick turn around and the low expectations.
Football is still 11 on 11, and all the teams competing at the top are spending around the same amount and there is a floor level spending you will need for a title.
Building the program is still going to take time, but people don’t want to hear that. It’s usually the people that have contributed zero extra that are doing the loudest whining though. Someone else spent 40 million but they are the ones upset.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:13 am to LSUFanHouston
Cignetti brought 13 starters with him from JMU and most of them were there in year 2 when they won the title.
Chesney brought 11 starters with him from JMU and UCLA has faced 3 teams with a winning record so far.
Don’t get me wrong, both are good coaches. They both also got a jump on rebuilding their programs by bringing so many of their former starters with them. Both also brought several assistants and staff members.
Those two are the outliers. Eric Morris brought 15 or 16 of his players from North Texas and Ok State is 6-3. That’s a massive turnaround for that program though, so he is having immediate success but it isn’t contending success yet.
Then you have situations like Sumrall and Kiffin. They were only able to bring a few former players with them, but both brought in most of their former staff. Despite both spending a bunch of money on the roster, having that much turnover without a strong core of former players that know the culture and system will take more time to gel. Both Sumrall and Kiffin are going to be successful IMO. It’s just not the immediate success Cignetti and Chesney have had.
Despite the snowball loss on Saturday, and having 3 total losses, anyone with a brain can see how much better this LSU team is than last years. I don’t know how UF fans feel, but id imagine it’s similar to how I do since they’ve gone from 4-8 to 7-5 or 8-4 with some nice wins.
Chesney brought 11 starters with him from JMU and UCLA has faced 3 teams with a winning record so far.
Don’t get me wrong, both are good coaches. They both also got a jump on rebuilding their programs by bringing so many of their former starters with them. Both also brought several assistants and staff members.
Those two are the outliers. Eric Morris brought 15 or 16 of his players from North Texas and Ok State is 6-3. That’s a massive turnaround for that program though, so he is having immediate success but it isn’t contending success yet.
Then you have situations like Sumrall and Kiffin. They were only able to bring a few former players with them, but both brought in most of their former staff. Despite both spending a bunch of money on the roster, having that much turnover without a strong core of former players that know the culture and system will take more time to gel. Both Sumrall and Kiffin are going to be successful IMO. It’s just not the immediate success Cignetti and Chesney have had.
Despite the snowball loss on Saturday, and having 3 total losses, anyone with a brain can see how much better this LSU team is than last years. I don’t know how UF fans feel, but id imagine it’s similar to how I do since they’ve gone from 4-8 to 7-5 or 8-4 with some nice wins.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:40 am to Big4SALTbro
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and there is a floor level spending you will need for a title.
What was Indiana’s last year?
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:48 am to idlewatcher
Never blow your load year 1.
Ask Sunny Dykes and Sumlin. That sets the bar
It’s like I tell my sales guys I train. You don’t want to hit 300% to quota in month 1.
Ask Sunny Dykes and Sumlin. That sets the bar
It’s like I tell my sales guys I train. You don’t want to hit 300% to quota in month 1.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:40 am to LSUFanHouston
think a lot of it has to do with the impending breakoff of the P2. lot of these ACC schools who think they have a shot at being included don't want to miss the bus for fear of missing out. if they hit on their hires and get success then they have a shot, if they miss then they weren't going to catch the bus anyway and they'll be right back here in 3-4 years.
but yea it doesn't help when the worst P4 program in the history of the sport wins a natty within 2 years of hiring their guy. I think Cignetti is generational but people see that and they start to dream
but yea it doesn't help when the worst P4 program in the history of the sport wins a natty within 2 years of hiring their guy. I think Cignetti is generational but people see that and they start to dream
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:11 am to Big4SALTbro
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think because you have a portal now and spend money it short cuts how you build a program.
Well that’s true
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:39 am to LSUFanHouston
Do you think it’s a coincidence that both of these cases happened in the Big Ten?
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:52 am to LSUFanHouston
The last couple years might be proving that SEC jobs are the worst jobs in the country outside of the cash.
Why deal with insane schedules and expectations when you can go to an off brand P4 school, play 1-2 tough games a year and become a god by bringing them to the playoffs more often than not
Why deal with insane schedules and expectations when you can go to an off brand P4 school, play 1-2 tough games a year and become a god by bringing them to the playoffs more often than not
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
Every football team lives and dies by its Lines.
Our O-Line isnt Elite, and is primarily whats holding us back in these big contest. You can plan, scheme, call the best plays make the adjustments whatever. If you dont have a Unit that can consistently grind ut out, get the tough yards and protect the QB its going to be a 3-4 loss season in this league every time.
Our O-Line isnt Elite, and is primarily whats holding us back in these big contest. You can plan, scheme, call the best plays make the adjustments whatever. If you dont have a Unit that can consistently grind ut out, get the tough yards and protect the QB its going to be a 3-4 loss season in this league every time.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:04 pm to UnAnon
Yeah cignetti brought in JMU players and won games his 1st season at Indiana ,JMU players and he has success in the big1 his 1st season.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:51 pm to RGT
You think we arent having success considering the massive amount of turnovers we've had the last 7 years? We've had to shuffle the roster MULTIPLE times and are on our 4th Head Coach (considering interims)
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:19 pm to Suntiger
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ndiana was Cigneti’s 2nd year.
Sure, but he went 11-2 and made the CFP in year 1. Overall point still stands, but he completely turned them around year 1.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 4:41 pm to LSUFanHouston
Big Ten is not strong my friend
Posted on 11/9/26 at 6:50 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Building the program is still going to take time, but people don’t want to hear that. It’s usually the people that have contributed zero extra that are doing the loudest whining though. Someone else spent 40 million but they are the ones upset.
Tigerdroppings (and travel baseball
) has really shown me that most people in general are sore losers. I know nobody wants to hear that, but yall just don’t handle losing very well. Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:22 pm to dallastiger55
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Never blow your load year 1.
Shiiiiiiddddd.....more like 17 seconds.
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