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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:45 pm to blueboy
Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:45 pm to blueboy
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I hope most of you realize that the Scottish guy who thinks that every character is secretly a different character is just a nutbag. Daario is not Euron. Tyrion is not secretly a Targ. Bolton is not an immortal skin changer. I'm not going to list them all, but damn. Did you folks really read these books, or are you just winging it?
Obviously, whoever told you kids that reading would sharpen your intellects - fricking lied.
He's just explaining theories to fans. The only one he really believes (as far as I know) is R+L=J. Most of the others he says it's unlikely or that there's no real evidence.
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Posted on 4/12/15 at 9:48 pm to blueboy
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Daario is not Euron.
This is one crackpot theory I highly doubt is true, but I'd love for it to be. I despise Daario and think his character is pretty pointless and terrible, but if it's just an act covering a huge monster like Euron, that instantly redeems his character for me. Granted I don't see how it's possible that he goes from Merreen to the Iron Islands in the course of weeks, but it's still a very entertaining Crackpot theory that would be great if it were true.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 10:43 pm to ohiovol
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The only one he really believes (as far as I know) is R+L=J.
I don't understand why this is considered a theory. The repeated "promise" narrative is less than subtle. Jon's lineage is deliberately intended to be such a vague subject that there is really no other solution to that question, especially given the otherwise pointless aspects of L and R's story. I think Gurm's position on this is a bit embarrassing. I don't think he thought this would blow up like it has. It's been 20 years, remember.
The other "lineage" stories are just for entertainment, by a crazed Scottish weirdo. Analyze the dialogue and you'll come to the same conclusion.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:16 pm to OMLandshark
I'm not sure how "great" I think it would be. It makes no sense, and has no basis in the text of the novels, especially given the guy's many other theories of characters secretly being other characters.
Again, examine the dialogue of the two characters. It doesn't match at all, and no, it's not a clever ruse by grrm.
Again, examine the dialogue of the two characters. It doesn't match at all, and no, it's not a clever ruse by grrm.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
Anyone else think Sansa-Ramsay storyline is D&D's vehicle for revenge for the Bolton's part in the Red Wedding? I can completely see a scenario with Littlefinger outmaneuvering Roose and seizing Winterfell.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:31 pm to NIH
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Anyone else think Sansa-Ramsay storyline is D&D's vehicle for revenge for the Bolton's part in the Red Wedding? I can completely see a scenario with Littlefinger outmaneuvering Roose and seizing Winterfell.
That's exactly what I think will happen in the tv series.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:50 pm to OMLandshark
Well, if that happens (as well as the Sansa/Ramsay wedding), I could live with it. That would be quite nice, actually.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:51 pm to NIH
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Anyone else think Sansa-Ramsay storyline is D&D's vehicle for revenge for the Bolton's part in the Red Wedding? I can completely see a scenario with Littlefinger outmaneuvering Roose and seizing Winterfell.
More than likely. And I wouldn't have too much of an issue with that either. Right now we're not seeing much in the revenge department in the show outside of the Lannisters downfall.
Posted on 4/12/15 at 11:58 pm to BluegrassBelle
I have a feeling Ramsay makes it out somehow. I've always felt he's Jon's or Theon's to kill.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:13 am to BluegrassBelle
BTW, I know from my reading of the books (thanks so much) and this thread that many believe Melisandre revives Jon Snow after his Sonny Corleone moment at the end of ADwD. Maybe the aftermath has been discussed, but maybe not.
Since the penalty for deserting the NW is death, and Jon dies in DwD, is he still kosher with the NW when he's brought back from death my Melisandre (if that happens)?
In other words, if Jon dies as a result of deserting the NW, is his penalty still respected if he's subsequently brought back to life by Melisandre? "{my watch] shall not end until my death." That's the pledge, but it doesn't say what happens after a man's "death." I'm sure they never thought of rules for a guy getting brought back from the dead.
Again, maybe this has been discussed. I haven't read this entire thread.
Since the penalty for deserting the NW is death, and Jon dies in DwD, is he still kosher with the NW when he's brought back from death my Melisandre (if that happens)?
In other words, if Jon dies as a result of deserting the NW, is his penalty still respected if he's subsequently brought back to life by Melisandre? "{my watch] shall not end until my death." That's the pledge, but it doesn't say what happens after a man's "death." I'm sure they never thought of rules for a guy getting brought back from the dead.
Again, maybe this has been discussed. I haven't read this entire thread.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 6:14 am to blueboy
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I don't understand why this is considered a theory. The repeated "promise" narrative is less than subtle. Jon's lineage is deliberately intended to be such a vague subject that there is really no other solution to that question, especially given the otherwise pointless aspects of L and R's story. I think Gurm's position on this is a bit embarrassing. I don't think he thought this would blow up like it has. It's been 20 years, remember.
The other "lineage" stories are just for entertainment, by a crazed Scottish weirdo. Analyze the dialogue and you'll come to the same conclusion.
Agreed. I don't think he's really pretending otherwise. He says he doesn't believe it for quite a few of them.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 7:43 am to blueboy
I'm thinking Jon's era as Lord Commander is over. For all we know, he may just be dead. Which wouldn't make sense because it would essentially end the Wall storyline.
I'm thinking he lives somehow and he and the wildlings take over the wall and then move out to Winterfell.
I'm thinking he lives somehow and he and the wildlings take over the wall and then move out to Winterfell.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 7:44 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 8:25 am to CottonWasKing
Didn't go through all of them so it's probably listed, but I like the one about Ned being alive. It would make very little sense and I'm 100% sure it's not true, but the theory is that after escaping the kingsguard (which Meryn Trant lies about) Syrio and Varys help Ned escape the black cells while Syrio, a faceless man, becomes Ned and is executed in his place. It sounds awesome, but where's Ned this whole time while his family is being killed and still in danger, and what motive would Varys have? And why would Syrio sacrifice himself for Ned? Too "fantasy" to be true. The other "Ned is alive" one I like is that somewhere he's a direwolf.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 8:26 am
Posted on 4/13/15 at 10:10 am to alajones
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For all we know, he may just be dead.
No. The end of that chapter is exactly the same as his teaser death chapter endings for other characters, like Arya and Davos.
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I'm thinking Jon's era as Lord Commander is over
I think so too, and since he's technically paid the penalty for desertion (if he does in fact die and is brought back), he may be free to leave the Watch.
Are there any theories about who actually wrote the letter that was supposedly from Ramsay? It didn't match up with his other letters, though the mention of Reek could mean that it's genuine.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:06 pm to blueboy
It was odd that the entire battle would be skipped and just this letter would show up. Kind of a blah ending to Stannis if it were entirely true.
And what happened to Sam and the whole Old Town story? That prologue was so out of place and seemed to pertain to nothing.
And what happened to Sam and the whole Old Town story? That prologue was so out of place and seemed to pertain to nothing.
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:16 pm to CottonWasKing
Just found this little gem. Made me laugh pretty hard 
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:19 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Can we talk about the leaked episodes in this thread?
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:32 pm to Korin
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Can we talk about the leaked episodes in this thread?
HELL NO.
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:37 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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HELL NO.
+1
Posted on 4/13/15 at 12:46 pm to alajones
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It was odd that the entire battle would be skipped and just this letter would show up. Kind of a blah ending to Stannis if it were entirely true.
The tone of the letter reminds me more of Selyse than Ramsay, but the mention of Reek seems to contradict that theory. Jon isn't cooperating with Stannis, and they really have the most to gain by his removal as LC. In any case, I don't believe any of what's in the letter.
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And what happened to Sam and the whole Old Town story? That prologue was so out of place and seemed to pertain to nothing.
I think it was said that the maesters were at the forefront of killing off all the magic in the world, and planned to do so again. Whoever the mysterious fellow is (the guy who killed pig boy and assumed his identity) seems to be against that plan.
I really did stop caring about theories after I read the books and watched a million YouTube vids, but man, it just has a way of sucking me back in.
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