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Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:17 pm to
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now that it’s moving past the books


This makes me sad. I guess I just figured they would still end this season with the end of book five. seems like more than enough material to work with. But there is also a lot more story lines that could be cut out too.

I guess I was still clinging to the hope of GRRM getting 6 out before they went ahead. O well.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:41 pm to
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Now, which 2 characters are in those crypts?


Gotta be Sansa and LF. Her character going from stupid girl to conniving wife of LF would be interesting.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:44 pm to
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Gotta be Sansa and LF. Her character going from stupid girl to conniving wife of LF would be interesting.


LF is not going to marry Sansa. For the realm, Sansa is theoretically his daughter. Might raise some eyebrows when he marries his own bastard.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:58 pm to
Yeah, not even in bizzaro Westeros world would that be kosher.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:59 pm to
Bizzaro Westoros has Jews? Interesting......

I'll bet they live in Bravos.
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 7:02 pm to
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Bizzaro Westoros has Jews? Interesting


A subject that has not been discussed. Has to be the Iron Bank.

Well done Lucas.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 7:11 pm to
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For the realm, Sansa is theoretically his daughter.


For now. LF could throw a house warming party in the Vale and make it her coming out party.

LF: "Surprise! Sansa is alive and she's here and we're getting married!"
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 7:13 pm to
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For now. LF could throw a house warming party in the Vale and make it her coming out party.

LF: "Surprise! Sansa is alive and she's here and we're getting married!"


Have you read A Feast for Crows? Littlefinger's plans for Sansa are pretty well laid out.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 7:46 pm to
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Have you read A Feast for Crows? Littlefinger's plans for Sansa are pretty well laid out.

I can't wait for Sweetrobin to die. That latest sample chapter had me cringing when he was bitching and moaning.

I do wish Sansa still had Lady.

I know you love LF shark, but Sansa's gotta be the one who kills him right?









Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 7:58 pm to
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I know you love LF shark, but Sansa's gotta be the one who kills him right?


Absolutely. I think that Sansa will kill LF in the crypts of Winterfell when he's about to kill Tyrion in front of Ned Stark's tomb with the Valyrian Steel dagger he framed Tyrion with. Just seems like the perfect way to go.
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 8:08 pm to
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Absolutely. I think that Sansa will kill LF in the crypts of Winterfell when he's about to kill Tyrion in front of Ned Stark's tomb with the Valyrian Steel dagger he framed Tyrion with. Just seems like the perfect way to go.



Jesus Christ shark! There is no way it can just go like that. That's like Professor Plum in the study with a candlestick.

Let me indulge you though. Why is Tyrion in that crypt in front of Ned's tomb?

I would believe Sansa could save Tyrion though. He's always been respectful towards her and her family.
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 8:16 pm to
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I think that Sansa will kill LF in the crypts of Winterfell when he's about to kill Tyrion in front of Ned Stark's tomb with the Valyrian Steel dagger he framed Tyrion with. Just seems like the perfect way to go.



I do not get. The imp is in Essos.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 8:20 pm to
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I think that Sansa will kill LF in the crypts of Winterfell when he's about to kill Tyrion in front of Ned Stark's tomb with the Valyrian Steel dagger he framed Tyrion with.


Tyrion won't be at Winterfell...not this season at least. He'll be teaming up with Dany. It would be stupid to kill LF. He's got a great story going...creepin on the come up.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:58 pm to
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Let me indulge you though. Why is Tyrion in that crypt in front of Ned's tomb?

I would believe Sansa could save Tyrion though. He's always been respectful towards her and her family.



Well, I think LF will get his Vale army, sack the Twins, and then head north to claim Sansa's seat in Winterfell. By this point, Sansa will have figured out LF's role in the destruction of her family and how monstrous he truly is. Meanwhile, Dany will land in Dragonstone, and will receive a raven from Jon Snow that the Others have broken through the Wall. They will have also received word that Aegon through Varys has secured the Iron Throne, and Sansa and Harry rule the Vale, the Riverlands, and the North through LF. Tyrion sees an opportunity in that Sansa's army should be rightfully his and her marriage to Harry is null and void. He agrees to go north to get Sansa's army and Jon's support, and Dany and Jorah stay in the south to deal with Aegon and Varys.

By the time LF and Sansa arrive in Winterfell, he knows his plans are fricked, with Bran and Rickon still alive, Jon raised from the dead and legitimized as a Targaryen and a Stark, and finally the Others are heading South to kill them all. The Others finally attack Winterfell, and just when it looks like they're completely screwed, Tyrion flies over the hill on Viserion with an army armed with dragonglass, and the Others retreat. Tyrion then demands that LF surrender his army to him, which he says is rightfully his, or else he will burn Winterfell to the ground. LF will refuse, and the battle will commence, this time LF's army vs Tyrion's.

Tyrion decides not to burn down Winterfell as a whole, and solely go after LF. Tyrion flies into the yard of Winterfell to kill him, but LF visibly flees into the crypts. Tyrion follows him down carrying Brightroar, but in the crypts Tyrion is ambushed and nearly killed by LF. LF then starts to gloat on how he's fooled everyone, and Tyrion was the only one to see through to his true nature, but that even Tyrion could not foresee everything that he had done. He goes into killing Jon Arryn, then orchestrating Ned Stark's death, how the lowest lord in the Vale became the Lord of Three Kingdoms, and then goes into how he tries to dispose of Tyrion and fail, only for each of his failures being a good thing for him. Cat failing to kill Tyrion gave him Harrenhall, Ser Mandon failing to kill him allowed him to frame him against Joffrey, Tyrion escaping ridded him of Tywin, and now Tyrion has personally delivered him his own dragon which he'll use to truly burn down the highborn who have spurned him.

As LF goes in for the killing blow, a knife goes across his neck and slices it. LF falls to his knees and looks up and sees Sansa with his Valyrian Steel dagger, and then looks to his right and sees he is at the foot of Ned Stark's tomb. LF tries to laugh, but drowns in his own blood and dies. Sansa then has Tyrion nursed to health, and they unite their armies to defeat the Others.


That's how I think it will happen at least.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 10:03 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:59 pm to
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Tyrion won't be at Winterfell...not this season at least. He'll be teaming up with Dany. It would be stupid to kill LF. He's got a great story going...creepin on the come up.



I'm talking more in the books, not the show. And yes, I agree that that scene I'm thinking about won't be until the final book, but just decided to type it up.
Posted by Azazello
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:01 pm to


Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:13 pm to
I was completely against the idea of the show passing the books. Now I look at it like an insurance policy. If GRRM dies before finishing the books, at least we'll know through the series how things end.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 6:51 am to
IDK, that's pretty vague. Basically, anything could happen and you'd be right.





But really
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:18 pm to
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Bizzaro Westoros has Jews? Interesting......

I'll bet they live in Bravos.



Bravos has the largest Jewish community in Essos in its upper east side. The other free cities along the narrow sea all have their Jewish Enclaves as well. The largest Jewish population in Westros is the small enclave in Old Town.
Posted by Snatchy
Member since Nov 2009
3281 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 6:19 pm to
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quote: Let me indulge you though. Why is Tyrion in that crypt in front of Ned's tomb? I would believe Sansa could save Tyrion though. He's always been respectful towards her and her family. Well, I think LF will get his Vale army, sack the Twins, and then head north to claim Sansa's seat in Winterfell. By this point, Sansa will have figured out LF's role in the destruction of her family and how monstrous he truly is. Meanwhile, Dany will land in Dragonstone, and will receive a raven from Jon Snow that the Others have broken through the Wall. They will have also received word that Aegon through Varys has secured the Iron Throne, and Sansa and Harry rule the Vale, the Riverlands, and the North through LF. Tyrion sees an opportunity in that Sansa's army should be rightfully his and her marriage to Harry is null and void. He agrees to go north to get Sansa's army and Jon's support, and Dany and Jorah stay in the south to deal with Aegon and Varys. By the time LF and Sansa arrive in Winterfell, he knows his plans are fricked, with Bran and Rickon still alive, Jon raised from the dead and legitimized as a Targaryen and a Stark, and finally the Others are heading South to kill them all. The Others finally attack Winterfell, and just when it looks like they're completely screwed, Tyrion flies over the hill on Viserion with an army armed with dragonglass, and the Others retreat. Tyrion then demands that LF surrender his army to him, which he says is rightfully his, or else he will burn Winterfell to the ground. LF will refuse, and the battle will commence, this time LF's army vs Tyrion's. Tyrion decides not to burn down Winterfell as a whole, and solely go after LF. Tyrion flies into the yard of Winterfell to kill him, but LF visibly flees into the crypts. Tyrion follows him down carrying Brightroar, but in the crypts Tyrion is ambushed and nearly killed by LF. LF then starts to gloat on how he's fooled everyone, and Tyrion was the only one to see through to his true nature, but that even Tyrion could not foresee everything that he had done. He goes into killing Jon Arryn, then orchestrating Ned Stark's death, how the lowest lord in the Vale became the Lord of Three Kingdoms, and then goes into how he tries to dispose of Tyrion and fail, only for each of his failures being a good thing for him. Cat failing to kill Tyrion gave him Harrenhall, Ser Mandon failing to kill him allowed him to frame him against Joffrey, Tyrion escaping ridded him of Tywin, and now Tyrion has personally delivered him his own dragon which he'll use to truly burn down the highborn who have spurned him. As LF goes in for the killing blow, a knife goes across his neck and slices it. LF falls to his knees and looks up and sees Sansa with his Valyrian Steel dagger, and then looks to his right and sees he is at the foot of Ned Stark's tomb. LF tries to laugh, but drowns in his own blood and dies. Sansa then has Tyrion nursed to health, and they unite their armies to defeat the Others. That's how I think it will happen at least.






So who sits the throne?


I am hoping for a white walker / children victory, forcing an exodus to Essos. This will unite sides for a world war. Btw, this will not happen haha.



I am just infatuated with the unknown :
Shadow binders
City of winged men
Valaryia
Shadowlands
Sothyros
Warlocks
Etc.

I hope this universe gets expanded after butterballs death.
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