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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:23 am to PsychTiger
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:23 am to PsychTiger
The Green Bastard>>> Everyone
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 3:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
And Alfie said that the parentage reminded him a lot of Star Wars.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:16 pm to ladytiger118
I can now post in this thread, quite the ending to dance with dragons.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:29 pm to sbr2
frick, you're fast
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:16 pm to Carson123987
quote:
frick, you're fast
twss
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:21 pm to Carson123987
The toughest part were the endless brienne chapters in book four
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:55 pm to sbr2
I cried when Nimble Dick died 
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:48 pm to Cosmo
Dude did get destroyed by a morningstar(?).
Posted on 6/28/14 at 11:04 pm to sbr2
Loved that part...
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:21 am to Cosmo
Glad that Nimble Dick stayed out of S4; hope he is left out of S5 as well.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 9:12 am to Gugich22
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:00 pm to ladytiger118
So far LSH has done nothing that we can't do without. She rides around killing Freys. Sure, that makes Stark lovers feel better but it doesn't really do much for the big picture. I am fine with leaving her out.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 12:02 pm to chryso
Martin must have told D&D she isn't that valuable in the overall plot towards the end of the books so they left her out. That's the only thing I can think of
Posted on 6/29/14 at 1:27 pm to chryso
There's no way they leave her out. One of, if not THE single biggest moment of the entire series is the Red Wedding, in which Catelyn is killed. To know that she is brought back to life as this fricked up zombie that goes around getting justice for her and her families deaths by hanging members of the family that murdered her and her family and not get to see that on screen would be a terrible mistake.
Of course she is not part of the overall ending of the entire series, but neither is Daario, Grey Worm, Missandei, Red Viper, Elia, etc etc.
Not saying they absolutely won't be part of the ending cause it's possible. But to assume that every character will have a role to play in the end of the series is kinda dumb
Of course she is not part of the overall ending of the entire series, but neither is Daario, Grey Worm, Missandei, Red Viper, Elia, etc etc.
Not saying they absolutely won't be part of the ending cause it's possible. But to assume that every character will have a role to play in the end of the series is kinda dumb
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:26 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Agree completely. Like I said, it could be a contract deal and she didn't explicitly say "there's no Stoneheart." She just said "the character is dead." Technically Cat IS dead.
And Graves only does 3ish episodes a season....and D&D haven't commented on it. I trust them over a part-time director for the series who comes off as a huge a-hole.
Plus Lena loves to get drunk and tweet and post on IG.
Basically it's been a huge PR mess and D&D and George haven't done shite to correct it. A lot of Hodors know about LSH now too so the element of surprise is gone for both them and us bookreaders.
And Graves only does 3ish episodes a season....and D&D haven't commented on it. I trust them over a part-time director for the series who comes off as a huge a-hole.
Plus Lena loves to get drunk and tweet and post on IG.
Basically it's been a huge PR mess and D&D and George haven't done shite to correct it. A lot of Hodors know about LSH now too so the element of surprise is gone for both them and us bookreaders.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:41 pm to ladytiger118
That's why they should have done it at the end of season 4. Now book readers will assume they aren't gonna do LSH and will tell all the show watchers about it and if they do it now it's just meh
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:47 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
Exactly. It's going to be meh if they actually have it in S5.
To me LSH is too important to the "Oathkeeper" story and to her not knowing if any of her children are still alive.
To me LSH is too important to the "Oathkeeper" story and to her not knowing if any of her children are still alive.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:50 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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There's no way they leave her out. One of, if not THE single biggest moment of the entire series is the Red Wedding, in which Catelyn is killed. To know that she is brought back to life as this fricked up zombie that goes around getting justice for her and her families deaths by hanging members of the family that murdered her and her family and not get to see that on screen would be a terrible mistake.
Lord Beric can sort of fill the role of unCat but there's an underlying theme of the Brotherhood's beginnings as a noble endeavor looking to serve justice and protect the smallfolk but being turned more and more to the darkside by the horrors they've seen and participated in. Thoros was obviously deeply troubled by the monster he had created, (even if secondhand). All of that is conveyed far more effectively by unCat than by Beric, IMO.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 3:00 pm to shinerfan
Hey folks,
on my reread and about to start book 4 but i decided i want to read 4 and 5 together.
do yall know of a kindle version of the boiled leather combination of those two books?
obviously it wouldnt be for sale by Martin and company, but has anyone found one online?
on my reread and about to start book 4 but i decided i want to read 4 and 5 together.
do yall know of a kindle version of the boiled leather combination of those two books?
obviously it wouldnt be for sale by Martin and company, but has anyone found one online?
Posted on 6/29/14 at 3:27 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
With 4 seasons down, I believe that I've sort of gotten a feel for how D&D think. Omitting Tysha and "Where do whores go?" was bit of a let down, but I really don't believe that much if anything comes from that storyline in the books. At best, he finds Tysha at the Happy Port and then...what? I'm not entirely pissed about them leaving that out, and that's coming from a " realistic book purist" who believes that they should keep it as close to the book as possible, but understands that some things have to be cut.
Stoneheart is not one of those things. To date, she has only appeared twice, really, although she is mentioned multiple times. But WOW, those two appearances are huge:
- She is revealed in the ASOS Epilogue
- She hangs Brienne and Pod, providing one of the biggest cliffhangers of the series.
So, WWDDD (What Would David and Dan Do)? They have two seasons to fill with the next two books (spare me the notion that they will mash them into one season because it's fricking impossible without completely butchering the story). They have, for all intents and purposes, 2 usable scenes with LSH up to this point in the books. They could write her out, but I firmly believe (speculation here) that she has a big role to play in at least TWOW. So, WWDDD? I think they combine the two scenes and use her hanging Brienne as the reveal for LSH and one of the WTF cliffhanger moments for next season. Now THAT would be a powerful scene.
Stoneheart is not one of those things. To date, she has only appeared twice, really, although she is mentioned multiple times. But WOW, those two appearances are huge:
- She is revealed in the ASOS Epilogue
- She hangs Brienne and Pod, providing one of the biggest cliffhangers of the series.
So, WWDDD (What Would David and Dan Do)? They have two seasons to fill with the next two books (spare me the notion that they will mash them into one season because it's fricking impossible without completely butchering the story). They have, for all intents and purposes, 2 usable scenes with LSH up to this point in the books. They could write her out, but I firmly believe (speculation here) that she has a big role to play in at least TWOW. So, WWDDD? I think they combine the two scenes and use her hanging Brienne as the reveal for LSH and one of the WTF cliffhanger moments for next season. Now THAT would be a powerful scene.
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