re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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We all think that TWOW is going to be ASOS on steroids, so what of the story will be left to tell in ADOS?

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Wrapping up the different storylines/conclusions/killing off some of the remaining players. Although I think a lot of the storylines will be wrapped up by the end of TWoW.

I've wondered that before too and would laugh my arse off if show had some big spoiler that hadn't been in book yet and he released a new chapter shortly thereafter contradicting it.

Maybe when he agreed to the show he thought they'd waste years on Dany's wandering around and that he'd have time to catch up hah

Haven't read it here or anywhere else, but was wondering if it's pretty well known that Cersei and Jamie aren't really Tywins son and daughter? That Tyrion is Tywins only true son that we know of.

Remember reading about an old lady telling Jamie(I think) something along the lines of Cersei and Jamie didn't look anything like Tywin. That Tyrion was the only one that looked like Tywin

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Remember reading about an old lady telling Jamie(I think) something along the lines of Cersei and Jamie didn't look anything like Tywin. That Tyrion was the only one that looked like Tywin

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Tywin's sister/Jaime's Aunt Genna Lannister-Frey was talking about Jaime's personality and true nature, not his looks.

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At last, they discuss Lord Tywin, and Jaime asks her if she loved her eldest brother. Lady Genna tells him how it was Tywin, a boy of only ten, who objected to their lord father's decision to wed the seven year old Genna to Emmon Frey, who was not even the heir to the Twins. For that alone, she loved him, stating, "...every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Who will protect us now?"
When Jaime insists that he is his father's son, his aunt replies, "You smile like Gerion and fight like Tyg, and there's some of Kevan in you, else you would not wear that cloak... but Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you."

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When she reminisced to Jaime about his father Tywin and felt less protected with him gone, Jaime tried to reassure her that Tywin had left a son, her aunt replied she knew that and that was what scared her the most. When Jaime asked why her reply was...
“ Jaime, sweetling, I have known you since you were a babe at Joanna's breast. You smile like Gerion and fight like Tyg and there's some of Kevan in you, else you would not wear that cloak...but Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you. I said so once to your father's face, and he would not speak to me for half a year.[2]

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That's my only problem with this series. There's too many people with secret identities. It's quite ridiculous

IMO Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Tywin's kids. Too many Secret Targs running around as it is.

That's one of the problems that Georgie has currently. He's let the secrets and intrigues bloat to an absurd level. TWOW better start converging and consolidating or he'll lose a large portion of the readership especially with the long waits and the poor reception of ADWD(however fair or unfair we here in the CP thread think that is)

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I'm thinking with the twenty-something POV's we have that close to half of them will die by the end of TWoW

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Agreed. I think we are looking at a lot of death in this book.

Cersei is a goner. Not much left in her story line, even if she wins her trial IMO.

I think so too from where Jaime dreams abou his mom:
"“We all dream of things we cannot have. Tywin dreamed that his son would be a great knight, that his daughter would be a queen. He dreamed they would be so strong and brave and beautiful that no one would ever laugh at them.” “I am a knight,” he told her, “and Cersei is a queen.” A tear rolled down her cheek. The woman raised her hood again and turned her back on him."

Though I agree the secret Targaryen plots are getting out of control.