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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:31 am to
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:31 am to
characters will just have to vanish

valar morghulis
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:32 am to
They could probably skip a lot of the Greyjoy stuff unless it's absolutely crucial to the end game.

They obviously need the Red Viper but not too many more Martells.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:44 am to
i think we can lose the Sand Snakes
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:44 am to
yep. frick those bitches.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:45 am to
I wonder if Vargo hoart will be skipped. As Roose has Jamie now.

Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:46 am to
quote:

i think we can lose the Sand Snakes


I doubt it. We have no idea what they are up to, but I have a gut feeling they will play a major part.

Supposedly, one of them is already at the Citadel posing as a Maester in training.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:46 am to
quote:

I wonder if Vargo hoart will be skipped


Yes. He is skipped. Someone else will be doing that dirty work.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:47 am to
Most of those characters, unless already brought, on aren't relevants until AFFC right. Damphair (except briefly in season 2), Victarion and Crows Eye don't get introduced really until the kingsmoot starts and the Martells wouldn't be brought in until long after the RV is dead, so they shouldn't be relevant until season 5 I would suspect.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:48 am to
quote:

I have a gut feeling they will play a major part.
i got the feeling they will be a semi-closed loop filler story in the books to give more depth to Dorne
Posted by ColaTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:51 am to
Vargo is renamed Locke. He appeared in the last scene. But he won't be a Brave Companion. Simply a Bolton soldier
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:28 pm to
Well, they are being sent to Kings Landing. Except for Serella. Supposedly, she is in Oldtown, and Doran Martell is "leaving her to her game".

ETA: My point is I think they will play a big part of the next book.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 12:29 pm
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:30 pm to
Thanks for clarifying, Cola. I didn't explain it at all
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Oldtown
what's the theory on how Sam and her play into the game?
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Where are her last known whereabouts?

Leading the Brotherhood somewhere around the forests of the Neck hunting the Freys.

What else is in the Neck?

Greywater Watch.

And who would be at Greywater Watch?

Why Howland Reed of course, the only living person who knows what happened at the Tower of Joy and be able to confirm if Jon is indeed the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Catelyn learns of Jon's identity this way and fraught with guilt over her contempt for Jon, she sets out to reveal to him his true identity.

Who better and more credible to break the news to Jon Snow than Catelyn?






Would be pretty great.

Catelyn has gone mad, and possibly the ONLY thing that could bring her back from the darkness would be Howland reminding her of her love for Ned.

Finding out that Ned never betrayed their marriage could overcome her with a sense of purpose to help fulfill his promise to Llyanna. With that wall that always separated her from Jon torn down (pun intended), she could actually grow to love him as one of her own now that she believes all of her own children are dead or lost. The two of them could share in their grief for the lost Stark children.

Would be a really nice turn actually.

I still like the idea of the Starks rising from the crypts as a last line of defense from the Others once the Wall falls, but this is a very good theory as well.

Would be great if they could both play out somehow.


Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:40 pm to
Every time they drop a character, it makes me worried about the books. I always think that some people will be a waste of time if GRRM allows the show writers to just drop them. If Gendry replaces Edric Storm, I have to assume his role in the BWB will be minimal in the future.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:42 pm to
same here, just console yourself with the idea that they still might transfer the significant actions to another character
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:51 pm to
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same here, just console yourself with the idea that they still might transfer the significant actions to another character


We might see a lot of Jean-Luc Picard memes in the book readers show threads.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

what's the theory on how Sam and her play into the game?


I don't really know. The Westeros.org website believes that she is Alleras the Sphinx (Alleras backward is Sarella). The Citadel wants all of the magic destroyed. They are sensing it coming back since the dragons are back. I think the Martells absolutely want to see the Targaryans back on top so they can be on top because of the pacts that were made. My suspicion is that the Martells are behind Varys and Illyrio.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:13 pm to
I can do without Vargo, without the Sand Snakes, without a bunch of characters.

But I surely would like to see Patchface with his insane but surprisingly prophetic yammering.
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:15 pm to
Also, I read something that got me thinking.

This line in Davos' chapter in DwD:

quote:

Davos looks long at where the dagger has landed, pondering whether it would be better to go back to the dungeons and eat porridge for breakfast as it is better than places where men break fast upon human flesh instead.


Wex is telling him and Manderly where Rickon is. Apparently, they are referring to an island of cannibals called Skagos. Has this been referenced anywhere before? I had no idea what this was until I saw it upon my exploration of the ASOIAF wiki page.
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