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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Does anyone think it's possible Arya takes Jaime's face and kills Cersei?


Euron takes Jamie's face and gives Cersi a finger in the bum.


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Methuselah
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
It's amazing how many of the theories from the first hundred pages or so are still unresolved. Or deal with plots that never made it into the show. Then again, I'm not sure any books have come out since the inception of this thread, at least in the straight SOI&F series.

From the recap on page 1:

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Hooded Man=Theon reflection of himself
Hooded Man=Benjen
Hooded Man=Blackfish
Hooded Man=Harwin
Hooded Man=Jon
Hooded Man=Mance
Weirwood paste is people
Benjen is alive and fighting a shadow war
Benjen is dead
Benjen is undead and leading the Others
R+L=J and Howland Reed is the only one alive who knows
Varys also knows R+L=J somehow
R+L=/=J
Jon=Azor Ahai and Dany=Nissa Nissa
Jon=Azor Ahai and Arya=Nissa Nissa (not Lannister-esque love, tho)
Rhaegar=Azor Ahai, Lyana=Nissa Nissa, and Jon=Lightbringer
Ned= shite swordsman
Aegon=Blackfyre=Mummer's Dragon
Aegon=Illyrio's son
Jon will end up with Val at the end
Jon is alive, but it was Melisandre who had him killed so he would be reborn as AA
Jon is dead but will warg into other animals a la Orell
Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Jaime will allow Brienne to kill him so that she can live
Pretty Merris=Brienne?
Jamie will kill Cersei
Sandor will kill Robert Strong
Arya will wreck shite with Nymeria and her pack in tow
Dany will sail East to attack Westeros from the West
Blackfish will reveal Sansa's true identity at her wedding and will reveal Littlefingers role in her fathers death
Rickon is running a crew of Cannibals...lol
3 Dragon Riders=Jon, Tyrion and Dany
3 Dragon Riders=Aegon, Tyrion, and Dany
Bran will warg into Jon's dragon
Lady Dustin is anti-stark
Lady Dustin is pro-stark and just putting on a front
Varys=Targaryan
Varys=Blackfyre
Tryion=Targaryan
Bloodraven is the person/thing training Bran
Bloodraven warged into the Raven at castle black to save Jon from the wight and helped get him elected Lord Snow
Bloodraven is evil as hell and training Bran to become the Great Other that Melisandre foresaw
Bran was the one who warged into the Raven that got Bran elected
The lone wolf dies but the pack survives=the remaining starks will be reunited soon
Tysha is alive in Braavos and has Tyrion's daughter
CottonwasKing has an acreboyish attraction to Arya
The Others and the Children are fighting in league with each other against the Andal invaders
Rhaegar was planning to overthrow his father during/after Robert's Rebellion
Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Ned Stark did not kill Arthur Dayne-hence his son being nicknamed Ned...
Who wrote the letter to Jon? Theon, Ramsey, Roose, Mance, Jon writing to Mance who is acting as Jon, the 1989 Denver Broncos?
Hodor!!!
Too many baby swaps for mortals to comprehend

Pgs 50-84

Jaime gets his sword hand revived by Thoros; becomes a bad-ass duel wielder
Robb will be revived with Grey Wind's head...
Brienne is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is not a Dunk-kin, but he has Giant's blood
Nan was a wildling from beyond the wall-that's how she knows so much about the north
Nan and Dunk did a little wink wink nudge nudge
Gregor is headless
Gregor is a frankenstein with someone elses head
Gregor has Robb's head
Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
Dany has the bloody flux and will die (Bluegrass' wish)
The wall will fall and the wildlings will flood the North (aren't they already on this side of the wall?)
Sam ends up as Maester of Nights Watch
Sam ends up as Maester in Kings Landing
Sam has the horn that can destroy the wall
Tons of speculation on who will rule what in the end
Sandor is the Valonqar-him killing Gregor causes Cersei's death
Sandor will beat Gregor but Cersei will escape somehow; Jaime will hunt her down and deliver the Kings justice
Littlefinger and Varys will ally to help Aegon
Littlefinger has the sword Blackfyre hidden in some tapestries
Jon=Night's King returned
Bran=Azor Ahai and will warg into a dragon (...ok)
R+L=J...but the R is Robert
Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron

Here are my findings today (page 85-110):
3 Queens=Margery, Cersei and Melisandre
Alleras was sent to Old Town by Doran to acquire dragon eggs for use in alliance with Dany
Alleras is just following Oberyn's footsteps and has no real plan
Alleras is investigating what the Maesters are up to...
The Maesters will side with the Others
Alleras isn't after a dragon egg but knowledge on how to train dragons which would be more useful to Dany...
Tarly will side with Aegon
Ser Barriston will die fighting the embodiment of Winter as no normal person left could defeat him
A lot of talk about a re-read thread...but it appears that thread died long ago
This thread is a lazy river that eventually runs into an 180ft waterfall on occasion
ASOIAF is a lazy river that eventually runs into a 180ft waterfall on occasion
Samwell's death will potentially be the most gut-wrenching in the series-can a man still be brave if he's afraid?
Something isn't IN Littlefinger's tapestries, but ON them
Bran will turn bad, but will redeem himself somehow
The Others=Creatures of the forest (...evolution? laying with giants?)
Brandon Stark received a letter from Lyana describing her and Rhaegars love but he either dismissed it as Rhaegar's writing or as a slap in the face to the Starks
Arya is the Volonqar-androgynous term (I so want Arya or Jamie to kill Cersei)
Varys lied to Aerys about Rhaegar's plotting to cause disruption in the seven kingdoms
Jon is a descendent of Bael the Bard
Jon is Arya's Nissa Nissa-Stick him with the pointy end
A dragon is sleeping beneath winterfell-source of warm water wells
There is a dragon egg near the wall that is white with red specks-referring to Jon's dragon?
There is a dragon inside the Wall and will wake when the horn blows and the wall falls fulfilling two prophecies/legends in one fell swoop


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Ned= shite swordsman


Who said that? Who the frick said that? Who's the slimy little communist shite twinkle-toed cocksucker in here who just signed his own death warrant?


Methuselah
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Who said that? Who the frick said that? Who's the slimy little communist shite twinkle-toed cocksucker in here who just signed his own death warrant?

Probably was Howland Reed. I hear he posts on this board.


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What


TigerFanInSouthland
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What


Go back and read the books/watch season 6.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I'm going to be disappointed if Jaime kills Cersei. I'm really hoping that the Valonqar (whoever it is - personally hoping for Tyrion) has their hands around her throat, choking the life out of her, then stops and sends her away from the castle to live her life in cowardice and fear of all she once held herself.

So much of this series has been about deconstructing the most popular fantasy tropes that it seems silly that every prophecy would come true, and given Cersei's paranoia about what Maggie the Frog told her, it would be delicious irony for her to see all her planning and cruel scheming go for naught because the prophecy only had as much power as she gave it.

On a purely selfish level, I really want a physically and emotionally broken Cersei to be crawling through the Riverlands, trying to convince herself that she can regain her lost glory, only to encounter Nymeria, who closes her teeth around her throat in the last sentence of the epilogue.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Does anyone think it's possible Arya takes Jaime's face and kills Cersei? 2 valonqars with 1 stone


I'd much rather she kill the NK with that Valyrian Steel dagger.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I saw a really good theory line-of-thought on YouTube by the Order of the Green Hand the other day. It detailed how we've actually seen the original Lightbringer already.

SPOILERS...?







Brandon of the Bloody Blade was the original Azor Ahai. He tempered the blade in the heart of Rose of Red Lake, creating the first dragonsteel blade the world had ever seen.

Being the father of Brandon the Builder, the blade became the ancestral Stark sword, Ice, and was passed down until the Andal invasions began. At that point a Stark lord took the blade across the sea to raid Andalos and dissuade future invasions, losing it in battle before returning.

The blade would eventually return to Westeros as well, though. This time in the hands of a minor Andal noble family...the Corbrays. Of course, being a new age and new owners the blade needed a new name: Lady Forlorn. It's quite the apt name when you consider the possibilities of its past. One last (probably defining) characteristic to note is the heart-shaped ruby in the pommel.

Draw what conclusions you may, but I found it pretty interesting.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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It detailed how we've actually seen the original Lightbringer already.


I'm intrigued by the theory - it would be interesting if in some upcoming battle, Jon has to wield either Oathkeeper or Widow's Wail. Interesting in that the reforging undertaken by Tywin to make 2 Lannister swords, he kept the ruby motif for the Lion eye decorations in the swords' pommels.

(ETA: And it would perfectly fit A Song of Ice and Fire - if Ice was actually Lightbringer - when needed.)
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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I'm going to be disappointed if Jaime kills Cersei. I'm really hoping that the Valonqar (whoever it is - personally hoping for Tyrion) has their hands around her throat, choking the life out of her, then stops and sends her away from the castle to live her life in cowardice and fear of all she once held herself.



Cersei has to die. She is not going to give up until all of her enemies, real or imagined, are dead, and she'll keep on creating new enemies in her own head even if she wins.

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So much of this series has been about deconstructing the most popular fantasy tropes that it seems silly that every prophecy would come true, and given Cersei's paranoia about what Maggie the Frog told her, it would be delicious irony for her to see all her planning and cruel scheming go for naught because the prophecy only had as much power as she gave it.



Well that's kind of the point with Jaime killing Cersei in this prophesy. It's never remotely crossed her mind that Jaime may be the Valonqar. The second she knew the word, she knew for a fact it was Tyrion. Cersei's obsession with it also led to her killing her friend.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
So Lady Forlorn was the original Ice and the one Ned took to King's Landing was a replacement?


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Exactly. The fact that the Ice we see is not the original is stated in the books. So something that predates the Valyrian Freehold and still meant so much to the family is pretty impressive.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I was just doing the rewatch on HBO and something struck me as odd. When Ramsey is torturing Theon and making him guess who he is, shouldn't it be easy for Theon to know that it's Ramsey since he's being flayed? Something that he's well know for?


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When Ramsey is torturing Theon and making him guess who he is, shouldn't it be easy for Theon to know that it's Ramsey since he's being flayed? Something that he's well know for?


Yeah, that was hard to believe that Theon wouldn’t immediately know exactly where he was. It’d be like being chained in a swamp house with a coonass with an LSU hat eating squirrels and not knowing where you are.


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So much for the book coming out in 2017


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So much for the book coming out in 2017


There's still time.


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There's still time.


Not anymore


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There's still time.





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