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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 9/7/17 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 5:37 pm to
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Who said that? Who the frick said that? Who's the slimy little communist shite twinkle-toed cocksucker in here who just signed his own death warrant?

Probably was Howland Reed. I hear he posts on this board.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:07 pm to
What
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:42 am to
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What


Go back and read the books/watch season 6.
Posted by Muthsera
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:23 pm to
I'm going to be disappointed if Jaime kills Cersei. I'm really hoping that the Valonqar (whoever it is - personally hoping for Tyrion) has their hands around her throat, choking the life out of her, then stops and sends her away from the castle to live her life in cowardice and fear of all she once held herself.

So much of this series has been about deconstructing the most popular fantasy tropes that it seems silly that every prophecy would come true, and given Cersei's paranoia about what Maggie the Frog told her, it would be delicious irony for her to see all her planning and cruel scheming go for naught because the prophecy only had as much power as she gave it.

On a purely selfish level, I really want a physically and emotionally broken Cersei to be crawling through the Riverlands, trying to convince herself that she can regain her lost glory, only to encounter Nymeria, who closes her teeth around her throat in the last sentence of the epilogue.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Does anyone think it's possible Arya takes Jaime's face and kills Cersei? 2 valonqars with 1 stone


I'd much rather she kill the NK with that Valyrian Steel dagger.
Posted by Decisions
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:20 pm to
I saw a really good theory line-of-thought on YouTube by the Order of the Green Hand the other day. It detailed how we've actually seen the original Lightbringer already.

SPOILERS...?







Brandon of the Bloody Blade was the original Azor Ahai. He tempered the blade in the heart of Rose of Red Lake, creating the first dragonsteel blade the world had ever seen.

Being the father of Brandon the Builder, the blade became the ancestral Stark sword, Ice, and was passed down until the Andal invasions began. At that point a Stark lord took the blade across the sea to raid Andalos and dissuade future invasions, losing it in battle before returning.

The blade would eventually return to Westeros as well, though. This time in the hands of a minor Andal noble family...the Corbrays. Of course, being a new age and new owners the blade needed a new name: Lady Forlorn. It's quite the apt name when you consider the possibilities of its past. One last (probably defining) characteristic to note is the heart-shaped ruby in the pommel.

Draw what conclusions you may, but I found it pretty interesting.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 7:49 am to
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It detailed how we've actually seen the original Lightbringer already.


I'm intrigued by the theory - it would be interesting if in some upcoming battle, Jon has to wield either Oathkeeper or Widow's Wail. Interesting in that the reforging undertaken by Tywin to make 2 Lannister swords, he kept the ruby motif for the Lion eye decorations in the swords' pommels.

(ETA: And it would perfectly fit A Song of Ice and Fire - if Ice was actually Lightbringer - when needed.)
This post was edited on 11/30/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/30/17 at 8:10 am to
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I'm going to be disappointed if Jaime kills Cersei. I'm really hoping that the Valonqar (whoever it is - personally hoping for Tyrion) has their hands around her throat, choking the life out of her, then stops and sends her away from the castle to live her life in cowardice and fear of all she once held herself.



Cersei has to die. She is not going to give up until all of her enemies, real or imagined, are dead, and she'll keep on creating new enemies in her own head even if she wins.

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So much of this series has been about deconstructing the most popular fantasy tropes that it seems silly that every prophecy would come true, and given Cersei's paranoia about what Maggie the Frog told her, it would be delicious irony for her to see all her planning and cruel scheming go for naught because the prophecy only had as much power as she gave it.



Well that's kind of the point with Jaime killing Cersei in this prophesy. It's never remotely crossed her mind that Jaime may be the Valonqar. The second she knew the word, she knew for a fact it was Tyrion. Cersei's obsession with it also led to her killing her friend.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 9:21 am to
So Lady Forlorn was the original Ice and the one Ned took to King's Landing was a replacement?
Posted by Decisions
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Posted on 12/9/17 at 11:49 am to
Exactly. The fact that the Ice we see is not the original is stated in the books. So something that predates the Valyrian Freehold and still meant so much to the family is pretty impressive.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 4:17 pm to
I was just doing the rewatch on HBO and something struck me as odd. When Ramsey is torturing Theon and making him guess who he is, shouldn't it be easy for Theon to know that it's Ramsey since he's being flayed? Something that he's well know for?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:45 pm to
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When Ramsey is torturing Theon and making him guess who he is, shouldn't it be easy for Theon to know that it's Ramsey since he's being flayed? Something that he's well know for?


Yeah, that was hard to believe that Theon wouldn’t immediately know exactly where he was. It’d be like being chained in a swamp house with a coonass with an LSU hat eating squirrels and not knowing where you are.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:12 am to
So much for the book coming out in 2017
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 7:10 pm to
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So much for the book coming out in 2017


There's still time.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 1:16 am to
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There's still time.


Not anymore
Posted by Zephyrius
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 1:30 pm to

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There's still time.



Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Not anymore


This is the year
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 1/1/18 at 2:44 pm to
I believe!
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 10:17 am to
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This is the year



His last post on the subject mentioned that we will get one book this year, MAYBE two. I believe it is pretty well known that the guaranteed book is Fire and Blood. That means he's still leaving the door open for Winds to potentially NOT come out in 2018.

quote:

I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018… and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream…
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