re: The "Omicron" Variant Disrupts Travel Worldwide

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They can get a COVID booster, which makes you about 9 times less likely to get COVID than someone who is unvaccinated.

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Source on this stat? I have seen no official study close to that since delta has become prevalent - data from Aug forward shows much lower effectiveness numbers although still high significance numbers

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Source on this stat? I have seen no official study close to that since delta has become prevalent - data from Aug forward shows much lower effectiveness numbers although still high significance numbers

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Here's the study showing antibody titers after the 3rd shot: LINK. After normal 2-dose vaccination, antibody levels were at 32, and then they declined to 4 over time. After the booster, they went up to 128.

Here's the observational study from Israel that found that a third shot was 93% effective compared to two shots where the 2nd shot was over five months old. LINK

Here's the randomized trial of a Pfizer thrid dose: LINK showing 95% effectiveness in preventing infection compared to those with two old doses (6 infections in those with 3rd dose, compared to 123 in those with two old shots).

In short, what scientists know now is that the vaccines never should have been two-dose vaccines. They should have always been three doses. The 3rd dose, spaced out from the original two, provides much, much stronger protection than the two original doses ever did.

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So is this article wrong? Are the doomsayers on this variant conspicuously did not mention the level of illness when talking about it. I figured it wasn’t killing or they would plaster that.

FYI - I am vexed and boosted - however still do not
Like the misinformation and ridiculous exaggeration with some aspects of the situation

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Scientists don't know yet. The doctor in South Africa doesn't work with many older patients who might have more severe outcomes.

But, yeah, there's a chance that Omicron could turn out to be great news, if it ends up being more transmissible than Delta but less harmful. That's part of how the 1918 flu pandemic ended.

A lot of scientists believe that COVID will eventually end up mutating into just another common cold.

Switzerland moving swiftly, looks like we fit in the trip just in time. Europe acting swiftly, looks like limited travel til next tourist season?

GOP_Tiger has been one of the biggest COVID fear mongers on this site for the past 2 years. Best to ignore him.

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GOP_Tiger

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Go frick yourself, you milquetoast pussy.

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GOP_Tiger has been one of the biggest COVID fear mongers on this site for the past 2 years. Best to ignore him.

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This is, of course, not true. I have consistently advocated for a science-based approach.

For example, since the original WHO investigative report in China in February 2020, we've known that kids are unlikely to experience severe COVID and spread the disease less than adults, so I've always opposed school closures. I believe that forcing 3-year-olds to wear masks on airplanes is horrible.

We knew that transmission outside was always unlikely, and when a Japanese study in April 2020 showed that transmission was 20 times less likely outside than in, we had confirmation. As such, I've always opposed all restrictions on outside activity. Wearing masks outside was always unnecessary, and attempts to make people do so have always been stupid.

The worst was when those dumb things were combined, such as when outside playgrounds for kids were shut down.

I did not vote for Joe Biden and do not support his attempt to use OSHA to force companies to mandate vaccines for their employees, as I believe that to be unconstitutional. (By the way, I also believe that its unconstitutional for governors such as Desantis and Abbott to try to prevent companies from mandating vaccines for their employees, because I believe in freedom.)

Because I follow the scientific evidence closely, I now believe that cloth masks do very little to slow the spread of the virus. If the government wanted to make a real difference, it could order millions of K-95 masks and give one to each American. If we were all going ot use those, that might actually accomplish something, but mandating the use of cloth masks now appears to be useless, so I oppose it.

Thanks for the opportunity to address your faulty memory of my previous posts on COVID.

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I thought this thread would have relevant information about worldwide travel being disrupted.

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Yeah, it got a bit derailed, didn't it. But most threads do that have anything to do with COVID. Here's something related to the original topic:

"2 in 3 Indians want Govt to reconsider call to resume international flights, finds survey" LINK

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"Australia delays border reopening as Omicron cases rise"

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But to the point, these decisions are not being made on science. You yourself said the scientists do not know with Omnicron.

What we do know is the anectdotal early cases have been mild as shite. Yet somehow this has translated to mass hysteria based off speculation of what might happen. Not science, not studies.

You have tried to have it both ways in this thread. You called out one poster for leaning on one study while talking about a matter where in your words they (scientists) know nothing.

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We are led by morons.

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