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re: London & Paris combo trip

Posted on 2/15/23 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20087 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 12:25 pm to
Eurostar makes it easy to get between the two. London is usually more expensive to fly to because of their fuel charge.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2934 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:18 pm to
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We did this a few years ago. Here's the thread with everything we did and suggestions from other posters.

Have a great trip!

LINK /


Thanks, I'll have to research some of the suggestions and things you did.

Do you mind linking the apartment you stayed at? Seems like a great location.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
92925 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:38 pm to
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Do you mind linking the apartment you stayed at? Seems like a great location.


Not at all - here you go. It was great. No elevator, but that was really only a "problem" two times.

LINK
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
22459 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:07 am to
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Everybody who goes to London ends up disappointed.


Horse Hockey.

I went almost a year ago and had a great time in London. Checked all the tourist boxes. Ate local. Drank local. Visited a few "hundreds of years old" pubs. Watched a football match in London Stadium. Watched a football match in a pub. Learned the "Tube" fairly easily. Went to the National Museum. Sunday Roast. Fish n Chips. Guinness. Stonehenge. Bath. Cathedrals. Walked through a "council housing" neighborhood. National Rail Strike . If you leave London disappointed, you did it wrong.

I thought London was great. Paris was better, but...it's fricking Paris.
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
2934 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:59 am to
Are Paris and London fairly doable as far as seeing all of the tourist boxes for someone with somewhat limited mobility?

Are things close to each other and or fairly close to train stations without having to walk long hauls?

My wife would be 4 months pregnant at the time of the trip and is worried there will be too much walking and she'll be tired/sore.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14501 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:13 am to
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Horse Hockey. I went almost a year ago and had a great time in London. Checked all the tourist boxes. Ate local. Drank local. Visited a few "hundreds of years old" pubs. Watched a football match in London Stadium. Watched a football match in a pub. Learned the "Tube" fairly easily. Went to the National Museum. Sunday Roast. Fish n Chips. Guinness. Stonehenge. Bath. Cathedrals. Walked through a "council housing" neighborhood. National Rail Strike . If you leave London disappointed, you did it wrong. I thought London was great. Paris was better, but...it's fricking Paris


Agree with this fella. We loved London. Do yourself a favor and get a beef and kidney pie from Maggie Jones restaurant. It’ll change your life.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23357 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:39 am to
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My wife would be 4 months pregnant at the time of the trip and is worried there will be too much walking and she'll be tired/sore.



Is this her first kid? 4 months is fine most likely, I'm not a woman, but my wife would have been fine at 4 months.

The answer is not really close to be honest, you are going to be walking a couple miles.

But worst case, just plan on doing some extra cabs or ubers to help out.
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1776 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:04 am to
In London the busses are easy and will take you to all of the sites if walking becomes an issue.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23357 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:26 pm to
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In London the busses are easy and will take you to all of the sites if walking becomes an issue.


Yeah Paris also. Everyone forgets about busses and busses just outside of the city center can be sketchy as Frick because it’s mostly poor people. But buses in the city center are fantastic, often times they just run down one general street which often times is north south or east west. So often times a bus is better than a metro or walking and most of the apps will show you the fastest route
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13390 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 5:49 pm to
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The answer is not really close to be honest, you are going to be walking a couple miles.

But worst case, just plan on doing some extra cabs or ubers to help out.


Cabs and Ubers, especially in Paris, sit. And sit. And sit in traffic. Places like Montmarte are total pains in the arse to get to in a cab/Uber. And then once you get there, you've a captive audience for the ride back.

Maybe if you include the Tube and SNCF/Paris trains, but especially in Paris, you gotta be prepared to stare at a route map that includes different lines in light green, dark green, medium green, olive green, drab green, and lime, amongst many other colors.

Not to mention, if you're in a car or on the train, you're not passing by the random Parisian dessert bakery that specializes in pistachio or hazelnut desserts.

Minimum, 6-7 miles a day walking, possibly twice that. You're either the kind of people that focus on the "strife" of walking with café experiences interrupting things or you just ignore the walking and focus on the experience, in which case neither of you should notice.

No offense intended, only you two know what is tolerable. But the world seems divided into two camps: My 6 year old daughter who climbs in the stroller if we're walking more than nine feet, and my (at the time) 8 year old son who trucks 12 miles on foot without complaint and just wants a double sized burger at the end.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Mike Joyce
Member since Jan 2021
400 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:02 pm to
London is a dump, you will regret it.

Trust me, just go to Paris.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13390 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:03 pm to
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London is a dump, you will regret it.



75% of Londoners will not go back to the office. Yet, outside of very specific use cases, we have people that insist that it's got multiple days worth of value. Curious that. Even locals told me there was nearly no pub that was actually privately (as in individual proprietor) owned in the city, they were all fronts for the same beer distributors under restrictive licenses, which the same four or five menus, which didn't really vary across the city.

But, not up to us. I didn't know until I saw it for myself, either. Sometimes your purpose in life is only to serve as a warning to others. Especially with a new wife, the box needs to be checked, I would suggest that OP plan the next trip while flying home.

Too many people do things (I know I'm not talking about the deep state here that has amazing amounts of info, but the "civilians" that come here for help, which I am only trying to encourage) and say, hey, I've been to London and Paris, so I've been to Europe! We should go to 30A next spring!

Always keep exploring. It's cheaper than you think to plan the next overseas trip. Maybe it's only three or four days on the ground. Fine. You're about to enter int o the land of "he's only four, he won't remember, we should wait."

Oh, is that why parents want to drop five figures on Disney for a birthday?

Kids remember, and are more adaptable than anyone wants to admit. With a newborn-ish, just schedule a trip to Central America during the Spring with a 12-18 month old. You need a pacifier for the flight to break the seals in the ears on altitude changes, and then the heat does the rest. Passed the F out.

You can condition kids, including young ones, to be resilient. It's not hard, and a 2.5 hour flight to a place that makes them want to pass out is a great opportunity to do so. Then, you drag their arse to Europe when they're five.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17453 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:19 pm to
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London is a dump, you will regret it. Trust me, just go to Paris.


London is amazing
Paris is amazing

We are talking about some of the most epic cities in the world. You can’t go wrong even if you spend 1 day in either city.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13390 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:36 pm to
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You can’t go wrong even if you spend 1 day in either city.


I'd give you an excuse if you did what I usually do on TD, is if there is a seven page thread, I skip over the first five pages and jump to near the end.

We've *precisely* been discussing spending less time in London, not NO time in London.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13390 posts
Posted on 3/1/23 at 10:07 pm to
A Conde Nast article came out today with the "locals" list of best bakeries in Paris. Conde Nast, I know, but the bakery suggested to me by the Prince de Galles is one of them. You'd never find this place unless someone told you where it was, like I am doing now. There are five or six of this shop through Paris, some more focused on desserts than baking.

My young daughter forced me to buy Croissants and Pain du Chocolate every morning, and I seriously feel for the maids at the PDG based on the stuff on the floor when she was being *careful*. The flakiest Croissants I've ever seen. Amazing. I couldn't post the picture from TripAdvisor that shows someone that has ripped one in half, but oh boy. You will get extra stars on your review if you bring those back to the wife.

When you walk past the location from the PDG or Four Seasons, you have to stop and turn around to see the storefront.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
842 posts
Posted on 3/2/23 at 7:55 am to
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We've *precisely* been discussing spending less time in London, not NO time in London.


Which is not good advice. Spend the same amount of time in each. In fact, I would recommend a separate trip of at least a week to each. Both are amazing cities.
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