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Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:28 am to TheWiz
Look, any itinerary is do-able, given sufficient resources and determination. Italy isn’t a huge country, though it is mountainous. Would I suggest the Lake Como area to a first-time Italy visitor who is trying to fit Rome, Florence, and Venice into the same trip? No. From Florence to Como area is 4.5 hrs...then it’s another 4 to Venice. If Como is on the must-see list, then adjust the itinerary—fly into Turin, do Como & then head south to Bologna, Modena, and Florence. Or Venice, Como, Bologna/Modena.
Any trip is a great one, if you match your expectations with your plans. Do you “need” to see the tourist cliche sites? Will you feel as though you haven’t been to Italy if you don’t stand in St Peter’s Square? Do you have a dream of mountains, cool air, and dry cured salami? The country is a patchwork of regions with very distinct traditions, foodways, and appearances. Just don’t try to hit every guidebook highlight in your first trip, or you will spend much of your time in a car or on a train, looking out the window, wishing you had room in your schedule for a long lunch, another scoop of gelato, an evening walk in a beautiful stone town as the sun goes down, or a few more hours to visit a morning market, enoteca, or panifico.
Google Maps are a travel planner’s friend. Train travel estimates are accurate, driving times tend to undershoot the mark a bit for Italy in my experience.
Any trip is a great one, if you match your expectations with your plans. Do you “need” to see the tourist cliche sites? Will you feel as though you haven’t been to Italy if you don’t stand in St Peter’s Square? Do you have a dream of mountains, cool air, and dry cured salami? The country is a patchwork of regions with very distinct traditions, foodways, and appearances. Just don’t try to hit every guidebook highlight in your first trip, or you will spend much of your time in a car or on a train, looking out the window, wishing you had room in your schedule for a long lunch, another scoop of gelato, an evening walk in a beautiful stone town as the sun goes down, or a few more hours to visit a morning market, enoteca, or panifico.
Google Maps are a travel planner’s friend. Train travel estimates are accurate, driving times tend to undershoot the mark a bit for Italy in my experience.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:41 am to hungryone
A 10 day trip is an eternity for the vast majority of American travelers. If you think that’s short you are living in a vastly different reality from most people.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:58 am to Fun Bunch
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A 10 day trip is an eternity for the vast majority of American travelers. If you think that’s short you are living in a vastly different reality from most people.
Definitely. I have plenty vacation time, but I wouldn't be able to be gone for more days than that consecutively.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
Most people go to Venice because they feel they have to. I did. But now that I've gone, I never need to ever go back. And I likely won't.
There are just SO many other places in Italy that are Substantially better.
Venice is cool, but it's below Amalfi, Florence, and Rome.
If I can choose my own arrival/departure cities....
I'd choose to visit Amalfi, Florence, and Rome.
I'd fly into Naples/Rome, go to Amalfi for 3 days (spend 1 day in Capri).
Transfer to Florence, and spend 3 days there. One touring the museums, 1 day for wine country, and 1 day enjoying the city and shops.
Drive to Rome, and spend 1 day at the Vatican, 2 days touring Rome. Fly out of Rome.
My plan allow you to have a chill arrival/adjustment location, but it also hits the main highlights.
There are just SO many other places in Italy that are Substantially better.
Venice is cool, but it's below Amalfi, Florence, and Rome.
If I can choose my own arrival/departure cities....
I'd choose to visit Amalfi, Florence, and Rome.
I'd fly into Naples/Rome, go to Amalfi for 3 days (spend 1 day in Capri).
Transfer to Florence, and spend 3 days there. One touring the museums, 1 day for wine country, and 1 day enjoying the city and shops.
Drive to Rome, and spend 1 day at the Vatican, 2 days touring Rome. Fly out of Rome.
My plan allow you to have a chill arrival/adjustment location, but it also hits the main highlights.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:18 am to Fun Bunch
Plenty of people have the time, they simply don’t choose to prioritize travel. Or, they’re locked into the idea that travel is expensive. Sure, ppl with school aged kids are stuck in re schedules.....but there are literally 30 million retirees in the US, lots of people working in academia or schools with long semester or term breaks, plus a giant section of the workforce that is freelance, flex-scheduled, or able to work remotely. Travel doesn’t automatically mean “not working” in the modern age.....
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:26 am to Fun Bunch
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A 10 day trip is an eternity for the vast majority of American travelers. If you think that’s short you are living in a vastly different reality from most people.
I fully understand that an extended trip isn't possible for everyone. However, you do need to factor in jet lag as a real possibility and factor in that the first day is generally a lost day.
That said, there's nothing wrong with a shorter trip. Just focus on a couple of cities or areas and explore them. A highlights trip where you touch places to say you were there instead of really experiencing the area is not something that interests me. For nine days I would focus on Rome and Florence and exploring the Tuscan countryside around Florence a bit. Two hour fast train ride back to Rome for the flight home.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 10:33 am
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:26 am to TheWiz
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have a thread in the sticky. Rome, Florence, and Positano.
I can’t view any of your pics. It has a photobucket icon. Is that a problem on my end?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:35 am to VABuckeye
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Then why are you only staying in cities?
We are staying in these cities as jump off points for day excursions. I do know Vatican City is a large tourist destination, but there are a few things I want to shoot there. The place we are staying is only a 20-min walk from there.
I'm not really interested in Pisa, but may stop on the way to Cinque Terre.
When I said I plan on doing the "off the beaten path", it's because I want photos of architecture, street life, etc, without a ton of people in the photos. So, even if I visit some of the tourist destinations, doesn't mean I will be doing the tourist things.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:08 am to hungryone
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Plenty of people have the time, they simply don’t choose to prioritize travel.
Or they have jobs that taking off more than 7 days in a row would be an epic disaster.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:22 am to kciDAtaE
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It has a photobucket icon. Is that a problem on my end?
No. Photobucket charges for third party site hosting. I wasn't going to re-do it with Imgur. That took a lot of time on the front end. Sorry.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 11:58 am to TheWiz
Damn. I’m heading to Rome/Florence in May with a stop in Postiano and looking for info.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:27 pm to kciDAtaE
I'd start at Florence and end in Positano or vice versa to mazimize your time at destinations and minimize your time traveling.
ETA: I don't know your flights so I could be off base. When we go to Italy we look to fly into Venice or Milan and work our way down to a flight out of Rome or Naples.
In September we're flying into Milan. Then Lake Como and Piedmonte then to the Tuscan countryside via the Florence train station then the fast train from Florence to Naples and a ferry to the Isle of Capri. We'll fly out of Naples to Madrid.
This way we're always traveling towards the next destination with no or minimal backtracking.
ETA: I don't know your flights so I could be off base. When we go to Italy we look to fly into Venice or Milan and work our way down to a flight out of Rome or Naples.
In September we're flying into Milan. Then Lake Como and Piedmonte then to the Tuscan countryside via the Florence train station then the fast train from Florence to Naples and a ferry to the Isle of Capri. We'll fly out of Naples to Madrid.
This way we're always traveling towards the next destination with no or minimal backtracking.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:01 pm to Fun Bunch
I did this exact trip on one of my visits. You are smart to fly into Rome first. It is one of the world's great cities but it is a mess and altogether exhausting. Everyone I know has enjoyed Rome more at the outset of their trip as opposed to the end of their journey. Our trip was as follows:
Rome 3 nights, Cinque Terre 3 nights, Florence 2 nights, Venice 1 night. Took Trains the entire way.
Rome 3 nights, Cinque Terre 3 nights, Florence 2 nights, Venice 1 night. Took Trains the entire way.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:32 pm to kciDAtaE
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I’m heading to Rome/Florence in May with a stop in Postiano and looking for info.
There should still be some substantial information there, you just may have to google some stuff.
In Rome we stayed in Monti. In Rome & Florence, I cannot recommend Walks of Italy enough. They were a fantastic tour group.
In Florence, we used Grape Tours for one of the wine excursions. The other was through Tenuta Torciano where they set us up with our own private driver. We went to Siena, their winery (tasted about 14-15 wines), and then finished in San Gimignano.
In Positano, we stayed at Le Sirenuse. We walked, we ate, we sat by the pool, drank copious amounts of wine, and enjoyed the views. We did spend a day on Capri. We hopped in one of those crazy looking taxis, and this dude took us all over the island for 130 euros I believe. Seemed legit enough.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:37 pm to TheWiz
Just to be clear, this thread really wasn't about me or a trip I'm doing. Its one of a few trips my wife and I are considering. Really I just wanted to spark discussion on a very common trip that a lot of people seem to do.
Anyway...
Anyone who has been to Bologna, thoughts? For some reason my wife has a hard-on lately for going there. I know the food is supposed to be incredible, but otherwise it seems incredibly boring to me. Personally I would rather spend my time in Tuscan hill towns like Orvieto, or go to Cinque Terre or the like.
Anyway...
Anyone who has been to Bologna, thoughts? For some reason my wife has a hard-on lately for going there. I know the food is supposed to be incredible, but otherwise it seems incredibly boring to me. Personally I would rather spend my time in Tuscan hill towns like Orvieto, or go to Cinque Terre or the like.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:38 pm to TheWiz
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In Positano, we stayed at Le Sirenuse.
Goddamn. Look at you, we got a big baller in here.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:02 pm to Fun Bunch
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Anyone who has been to Bologna, thoughts?
Friends were in Bologna last fall. I didn't hear anything bad about it but I didn't here OMG you have to go either.
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I know the food is supposed to be incredible
The further north you go in Italy the less the tomato is prevalent in the dish and the food gets much better (IMO). I love the rustic Tuscan and northern Italian food which is based more on sauces like duck sauce, wild boar sauce, etc. What most Americans think of as Italian food isn't representative of most of the country.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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Goddamn. Look at you, we got a big baller in here.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.... While it was really f'ing expensive, we went so that it butted up essentially to two days before "ON" season. Significantly cheaper.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:35 pm to TheWiz
I don't know how much money you want to spend but if you have the chance to go to Le Serinuse I would stay there and forget researching other Italian cities. That is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been to. We did not stay at the hotel but we ate at the restaurant ( A Michelin 2 star lit with 400 candles and has large windows overlooking the Mediterranean) and would have cocktails on the terrace most evenings before venturing out for dinner. We spent so much time at Le Sirenuse the staff thought we were staying there. Maybe some day.
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