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Do you expect international travel to resume...

Posted on 7/25/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
6028 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 5:56 pm
... on a large scale by the end of this year? Would you confidently book a trip to a foreign country for November or December?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
43840 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 5:57 pm to
Nope.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
86504 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 6:45 pm to
Won’t be on a large scale until mid next year at the earliest... The restrictions in the meantime are going to be a pain in the arse.

HK just declared anyone from the US will have to have proof of a negative Rona test within 3 days of flying.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
6028 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 6:50 pm to
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HK just declared anyone from the US will have to have proof of a negative Rona test within 3 days of flying.

Yeah.

I found a good deal to Japan for November with no change fees if booked before the end of July. I am thinking about booking it and if it doesn't work out for November just changing it to another time.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 6:51 pm to
At this point, I'm shooting for May 2021 based on COVID and weather for where I think may be open.

I'm just waiting on ANA to extend the travel fee waiver for my Japan flights in November. No way they will be open. Then I can rebook for somewhere else.

Was an award booking and want to avoid a 9,000 point penalty which is about 3-$400.

In the last two years I've had to cancel Myanmar/Laos/2nd time to Bangkok and now Japan for black swan events. Sucks since I was traveling around starting a family.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:00 pm to
quote:


I found a good deal to Japan for November with no change fees if booked before the end of July. I am thinking about booking it and if it doesn't work out for November just changing it to another time.



I'd be shocked if they are open by then.

I search for Japan news all the time, see post above why. They are freaking out about domestic travel right now. There are maybe a few hundred "foreigners" getting into the country a month who are likely almost all Japanese. They've been talking about opening to business travelers from a few countries in their area of the world for well over a month and still haven't. No one knows anything, but Japanese citizens posting on the internet are all leaning towards no way in 2020 at all.

I'd plan countries absolutely reliant on tourism. Maldives, Indonesia, Thailand,etc.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133576 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:04 pm to
At this point I’d punt on this year.

I’d say there’s a good chance after November election of this magically disappearing but who knows.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:08 pm to
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I’d say there’s a good chance after November election of this magically disappearing but who knows


I don't think our election is applicable to the rest of the world.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
6028 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:32 pm to
Let me ask this board this question. Do you think it's sensible to book great flight deals you're almost certain won't work out for the original dates but can change them with no fees at a later time?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41072 posts
Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Do you think it's sensible to book great flight deals you're almost certain won't work out for the original dates but can change them with no fees at a later time?


If you're entirely flexible I think it could be OK, which from your prior posts I believe you are. Just don't book with an airline that is going bankrupt

I also think deals will be out there when it's a little more obvious things will be open, so I don't think you'll miss out too much if you wait, unless you're flying international RT for like $200.
This post was edited on 7/25/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24755 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:02 am to
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don't think our election is applicable to the rest of the world.




Disagree completely. Not 100% certainly, but there’s only a few places in the world that broadcast news worldwide and the USA and Britain are the two big dogs. If American news was far more up beat about the virus, it could have a significant effect especially on smaller countries and places that aren’t top of the first world list. Japan certainly wouldn’t matter, but travel to say somewhere like Columbia or Argentina or Thailand could certainly.

Especially considering the entire world thinks the USA is now the ‘epicenter’ of the disease thanks to our media.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Member since Oct 2011
82674 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:18 am to
quote:

I found a good deal to Japan for November with no change fees if booked before the end of July. I am thinking about booking it and if it doesn't work out for November just changing it to another time.



I'd be shocked if they are open by then.

I search for Japan news all the time, see post above why. They are freaking out about domestic travel right now. There are maybe a few hundred "foreigners" getting into the country a month who are likely almost all Japanese. They've been talking about opening to business travelers from a few countries in their area of the world for well over a month and still haven't. No one knows anything, but Japanese citizens posting on the internet are all leaning towards no way in 2020 at all.

I'd plan countries absolutely reliant on tourism. Maldives, Indonesia, Thailand,etc.


Delta cancelled my October Asia flights (I was also supposed to go 2 months ago). 2020 is definitely shot. I'm thinking next May may work out, but even based on the news I'm reading it doesn't look hot
Posted by 03GeeTee
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Member since Oct 2010
3427 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 8:20 am to
I’ve had a November trip to New Zealand booked since February and it seems more and more doubtful every day.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4124 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:32 am to
October trip to Caribbean has been cancelled
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2267 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:15 am to
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October trip to Caribbean has been cancelled


Traveling to the entire Caribbean? Joking, but where were you going? Many islands are open for tourists. I know a couple very recently cracked down on US tourists, specifically the Bahamas.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
4124 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:28 am to
TCI. Turks just opened borders this week too. Might just be the resort where we’re staying, but it didn’t sound like it.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11903 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:55 am to
What does everyone think about Mexico? Looking for a decent honeymoon destination and there are some solid spots I’ve seen recommended do this Baird. Not what we had hoped for but will just save and go somewhere farther next year.

Any domestic that are worth while during that time?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:54 pm to
I spoke with a client last week who’s delaying an opening, they’re an international destination, until next spring.

I don’t expect travel to be normal before then.

Travel restrictions will be in force through the end of the year, and hotels will be in cost saving mode, if they’re open.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
109463 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:35 pm to
2022
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17905 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Would you confidently book a trip to a foreign country for November or December?


Depends on the country and what you mean by “confidently”. I recently scheduled a trip to Aruba in late September. Flights and resort are refundable and we don’t plan on leaving the resort while there.

I’m calling it 50/50 if we actually go. But if resort is fully operational and flights don’t cancel, I’m there
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