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YouTube TV question.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:11 pm
If I cut the cord for cable and get YouTube TV, can I still access all the apps I normally do for sports?
ESPN (all of them), CBS, NBC, FOX Sports
ESPN (all of them), CBS, NBC, FOX Sports
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:26 pm to pwejr88
All of those networks are on YouTube TV if that’s what you were asking
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:38 pm to papasmurf1269
i didn’t think about that. So if I am on my phone or a fire stick, all I need is the YouTube TV app?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:03 pm to pwejr88
Yep. They will charge you right off the bat and I believe it’s like 64.99 and you get approximately 85 channels with the SEC network included
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:19 am to papasmurf1269
Been pretty happy with YTTV. My wife likes volleyball and the DVR always has a volleyball game between the SEC and big 10 network. I also started using the 4x football game screen after I watch the LSU game and want to just have football on. I like that you can choose which game to have the audio on to listen.
I use it with firestick app and occasionally just in the browser but don't think you can get the splitscreen games with the browser.
Will probably put it on hold after the football season is over.
I use it with firestick app and occasionally just in the browser but don't think you can get the splitscreen games with the browser.
Will probably put it on hold after the football season is over.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:14 am to pwejr88
You might want to check each one. Most should have a login to use your YTTV credentials. I use it with SECN+
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:07 pm to pwejr88
Yes, but you don’t need to. Just use the YTTV app. All phones and most smart TVs should have it.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:30 am to pwejr88
We switched to YTTV and have enjoyed it. My two gripes with it are:
1) No channel numbers so you can't tune directly to a channel
2) No recall function to switch back to the previous channel.
Minor, but annoyances they both are
1) No channel numbers so you can't tune directly to a channel
2) No recall function to switch back to the previous channel.
Minor, but annoyances they both are
Posted on 10/22/23 at 7:04 pm to pwejr88
Just be aware that if you travel, it can effect access to local games.if you are out of market.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 7:15 am to pwejr88
Those who say YouTube TV has ESPN overlook that many events stream on the ESPN app but don't air on ESPN (like many LSU baseball games), so merely having the channel on YouTube TV doesn't get you all the way there.
If you want to watch a game on the ESPN app that is not airing on ESPN channel, you log in to the ESPN app with your TV provider (YouTube TV) login/pw info just as you have done with whatever provider you had before.
If you want to watch a game on the ESPN app that is not airing on ESPN channel, you log in to the ESPN app with your TV provider (YouTube TV) login/pw info just as you have done with whatever provider you had before.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:40 pm to Chromdome35
quote:Yeah, those are more than minor, IMO.
1) No channel numbers so you can't tune directly to a channel
2) No recall function to switch back to the previous channel.
I also was recently with someone on the road that had YTTV pulled up on a Saturday night to watch CFB. On the plus side, you can pull up like 2-4 games at one time with split screens. Utterly absurdly, unbelievably - you CANNOT choose individually which of the games makes up your 2-4. Literally, they force you to select from batches they have already curated - and NONE of those in this instance had the 3 games that one would have actually wanted simultaneously. I was in disbelief the entire time. What is this shite? Some bizarre tech AI prediction nonsense that they force on you?
I also think the picture quality is just clearly still "streaming" as opposed to a more local (i.e. cord) solution.
I bought the NFL package, but I am nowhere near ready to cut the cord.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:12 pm to Chromdome35
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No recall function to switch back to the previous channel.
Press down on your remote 3 times. It shows your last several channels watched.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I also was recently with someone on the road that had YTTV pulled up on a Saturday night to watch CFB. On the plus side, you can pull up like 2-4 games at one time with split screens. Utterly absurdly, unbelievably - you CANNOT choose individually which of the games makes up your 2-4. Literally, they force you to select from batches they have already curated - and NONE of those in this instance had the 3 games that one would have actually wanted simultaneously. I was in disbelief the entire time. What is this shite? Some bizarre tech AI prediction nonsense that they force on you?
I also think the picture quality is just clearly still "streaming" as opposed to a more local (i.e. cord) solution.
I bought the NFL package, but I am nowhere near ready to cut the cord.
Feature, not a bug. Most TVs don't have an internal processor that would be capable of handling four simultaneous streams. However, 99% of people wouldn't even begin to understand that fact, and they would bitch about it incessantly. So, YTTV does the processing to bundle the streams on their end so that they can send it to you as a single stream. It's literally the only way the feature can work for most people.
This is also the first year they are doing it, so I would expect to see it shift and grow over time.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:45 pm to Joshjrn
quote:I guess. Certainly the vast majority of TVs can take TWO streams, no?
Feature, not a bug. Most TVs don't have an internal processor that would be capable of handling four simultaneous streams. However, 99% of people wouldn't even begin to understand that fact, and they would bitch about it incessantly. So, YTTV does the processing to bundle the streams on their end so that they can send it to you as a single stream. It's literally the only way the feature can work for most people.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Certainly the vast majority of TVs can take TWO streams, no?
That’s what she said
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:11 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I guess. Certainly the vast majority of TVs can take TWO streams, no?
I don't have personal knowledge on the subject, but my guess is that in an attempt to keep the bill of materials low in production, most TVs can barely process one signal at a time. My anecdotal reasoning for that guess (beyond the financial aspect) is that... isn't it odd that few TVs seem to have "picture in picture" functionality these days, when decades ago, it was a nearly standard feature?
ETA: This is YTTV's official statement on the subject:
quote:
Can I choose what to watch in multiview? No. Our goal with multiview is to make it available to everyone with a television. Since most devices don’t have the hardware to support multiview, we have to do the processing of video feeds on our servers to make multiview possible. This means that every unique combination watched in multiview uses limited data center and computational resources. Because each region has unique, local content, we are especially constrained on the number of combinations we can create that include local feeds. We try to select the best combinations based on expected popularity, and are always improving our processes.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 8:14 am
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:31 am to Joshjrn
quote:
I don't have personal knowledge on the subject, but my guess is that in an attempt to keep the bill of materials low in production, most TVs can barely process one signal at a time. My anecdotal reasoning for that guess (beyond the financial aspect) is that... isn't it odd that few TVs seem to have "picture in picture" functionality these days, when decades ago, it was a nearly standard feature?
My anecdotal evidence to back this is that FuboTV allows you to choose what you want to watch in MultiView, but even running the app on my XBox Series X, I always found it to be flakey.
On YTTV, it just works, and I can nearly always find the games I want in multiview.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:46 am to Joshjrn
quote:It's funny you mention that because I still have my old plasma that has PiP. I remember thinking what a futuristic built-in feature that was...and now I quite literally never use it.
I don't have personal knowledge on the subject, but my guess is that in an attempt to keep the bill of materials low in production, most TVs can barely process one signal at a time. My anecdotal reasoning for that guess (beyond the financial aspect) is that... isn't it odd that few TVs seem to have "picture in picture" functionality these days, when decades ago, it was a nearly standard feature?
But I do have DirecTV which has several "mix" channels - including sports and news + it used to have the NFL mix also. Is that somehow different than the multiple streams you are highlighting? Or would those mix channels not work on new TVs without PiP? I guess you'll say DirecTV is also doing the choosing on their end. But then how does that square the ability to record 5 things at once? Is that a pre-TV functionality? Just seems weird to me that this is actually a bottleneck in 2023.
Thanks for the link, although I'm still a little bit skeptical of their explanation.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:18 am to Big Scrub TX
Signals are sent compressed (to lower bandwidth) for your TV or box to decompress and display. Recording is the equivalent of downloading those compressed bandwidth streams. That distinction isn’t something we normally have to think about on our computers, but think of your TV as a twenty year old computer. As long as the modem was fast enough, you could download as many movies as you want simultaneously. But, if you tried to play more than one at once, it would become a juddery mess. Same basic idea as a modern tv with an internal processor already (intentionally) pushed near its limits.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:47 am to Joshjrn
Makes sense, although I think we both might be off on the PiP thing, as that is a matter of separate tuners and not streaming per se, no?
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