re: New House Audio

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So tell me how damn near every audiophile on the plant that has their tweeters, and midrange, at listening height and pointed at them is wrong? They should just hang their fricking speakers from the ceiling pointed at the ground with no regard to positioning or soundstage or anything...it just doesn't matter.

I understand what's going on, and I understand that TONS of people hard wire ceiling speakers into new construction, and I understand that shops love selling this stuff, and I have friends with this exact setup that they've paid handsomely for...and to be honest it's louder than I imaged it would be, but still...if my wife insisted I hid everything I'd figure out a way to at least put a near field system in my office so I could hear music like I want. I kept the WAF in mind when I bought my system and she's never once complained.

I'd do Sonos before I'd hide speakers overhead, but luckily I don't have either problem.

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Gaston

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Yeah, he must've inhaled some fumes when he painted his rims olive drab.

I have two speakers in my house, and if I want to hear them in the bathroom I turn my hybrid tube amp up.

The only speakers that should be in the ceiling are subs...preferably in a X.2 setup. I've seen directional ceiling rears used in a system, but it was a $30k setup and didn't think it sounded particularly well.

Or hell put them all up there and feed them surround sound and rock out with your strange sounding shite. People like dumb shite, I don't even care.

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Ceiling speakers might not be ideal compared to wall speakers but they're fine. I was worried about doing it but i did and they work really well.

Your comment of "you might as well not have speakers at all" if they're ceiling speakers is very off base.

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That's the route I would go. Hardwire some architectural speakers and run them back to one location. I'd use connect amps in the rooms you just want music. If you want a 5.1 system I'd buy a traditional AVR and put a SONOS connect on it to make it a SONOS zone. You could also use a playbar a couple of play1's and a sub for 5.1 sound. But I'd rather have an AVR to handle the video switching.

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This is the correct answer. As I have said before in regards to Sonos, check out ebay for the older versions of the Connect and Connect Amp. ZP-80/90 and ZP-100/120.

I like the Play 1/3/5 for rooms that you may listen to music in periodically. That would be your preference, but something like a Nursery or Office would be a good place for a Play 1.

I have a Play 1 in my kitchen right now, but it is only because we were planning on doing some renovations. I didn't see the need in putting a 5.1 system in the living room ceiling and another 2 channels in the Kitchen when those speakers would be overkill if that dividing wall comes down.

If you want to do it right and aren't concerned with the 2 channel stuff like Gaston loves (no offense, I have two channel for my turntable), then go with Sonos.

For me I prefer the connect amp and speaker. The only experience I have is with a play 1 that is in my daughters bedroom for her alarm clock and music in there. The sound bar sounds good but it really shines with the sub.

I could go optical out of the TV to the DAC, it just wouldn't stay native bit rate. Right now if I'm just going to listen to an album I leave the TV off and just go computer to express.

My wife listens to Spotify from her phone directly to the express...

Great idea though, those things are too cheap not to pick another one up.