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Boss
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New Computer build
My brother-in-law wants me to build him a new gsming rig. Last year my son and I built him this.

812586 FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK LITE TG
1 99.99 99.99
965483 EVGA RTX2070 SUPER XC ULTRA 8G

S/N: 843368062910 1 534.99 534.99
956367 SEASONIC FOCUS+ 650W 80G FM ATX
1 109.99 109.99
955807 ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS WIFI

S/N: K9M0KS014247J6P 1 169.99 169.99
128504 SILVERST PWM FAN HUB 1 TO 8
1 24.99 24.99
789487 MICROCONN 30CM 1TO3 RGB SPLITTER
1 7.99 7.99
979377 G.SKILL 16GB 2X8 D4 3600 TRIZ RGB
1 108.99 108.99
711085 KINGWIN LED 12" RGB MAG FLEXSTRIP
1 15.99 15.99
711085 KINGWIN LED 12" RGB MAG FLEXSTRIP
1 15.99 15.99
051490 BITSPWR NOTOS 120 FAN DRGB 1PK
1 9.99 9.99
748939 SAMSUNG E 500GB 970EVO NVME M.2 SSD

S/N: S5H7NC0M916743 1 89.99 89.99
951970 AMD AMD RYZEN 5 3600 WRAITHST

S/N: 9HT2378W90561 1 179.99 179.99
051888 BITSPWR NOTOS 120 FAN DRGB 5PK
1 49.99 49.99
406769 IPSG 32GB USB 3.0
1 0.01 0.01
841791 IPSG PL CREDIT CARD
1 0.01 0.01
Subtotal » $1,418.89

I know supply sucks right now but what should I be looking at processor and graphics card wise. He wants really good fps. I am sure the 3600 and 2070 are a bit outdated so what should I be looking at for him. Any help is much appreciated.


dakarx
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re: New Computer build
What's the budget?

Is he aware of the scarcity and markup on cpu/gpu's ?

Now is a good time to sit back and watch the retail market and NOT buy anything. Wait 6-12 months and see if the supply catches up. Crypto miners are buying up everything they can find at 2x retail on new and used markets.


VABuckeye
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Member since Dec 2007
29314 posts

re: New Computer build
Yep, I have a mini-ITX build complete except for the graphics card. It's sitting there waiting for supply to get better which looks to be a while.


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boXerrumble
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I am sure the 3600 and 2070 are a bit outdated so what should I be looking at for him.


This is not outdated at all


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efrad
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Member since Nov 2007
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re: New Computer build
The 3600 and 2070 are last gen but are certainly not dated

The only way I would bother upgrading is if I could sell my parts at inflated eBay scarcity prices and then somehow score a deal on newer parts at MSRP but good luck with that

Otherwise, it’s not worth bothering to upgrade that box right now


boXerrumble
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The 3600 and 2070 are last gen but are certainly not dated

The only way I would bother upgrading is if I could sell my parts at inflated eBay scarcity prices and then somehow score a deal on newer parts at MSRP but good luck with that

Otherwise, it’s not worth bothering to upgrade that box right now


Definitely not worth it. OP's rig is good for at least 4-5 years for gaming, if not more.


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barbapapa
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Member since Mar 2018
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re: New Computer build
good luck finding any 30 series GPU


gobuxgo5
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Microcenter gets them all the time but the line is insane. That’s a cool store by the way.


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Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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re: New Computer build
That’s not cutting edge, but it’s not outdated.

What does he play, at what settings and resolution? What is his current frame rate? What’s his target frame rate after a hypothetical upgrade?


Boss
Member since Dec 2007
877 posts

re: New Computer build
I wasn't clear. That build is my son's and he is set. Not uograding anytime soon.

My brother in law wants a complete new build. Wants to stay under 2k for the rig.


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Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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re: New Computer build
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My brother in law wants a complete new build. Wants to stay under 2k for the rig.


Yeah, that couldn't have been less clear from the OP

Questions are the same:

What's he play?
At what resolution and settings?


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bluebarracuda
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Member since Oct 2011
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re: New Computer build
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That’s not cutting edge, but it’s not outdated.


I agree. For a new build now, I would never get a processor lower than the 5600x


efrad
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Due to the shortages, now is a really bad time to be picking parts out to build a rig. Especially for graphics cards. The prices are nuts.

But it's a lot easier to find prebuilt rigs with good GPUs. I wouldn't normally suggest to buy a prebuild, but you might end up better off going that route


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Joshjrn
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I agree. For a new build now, I would never get a processor lower than the 5600x


It depends on pricing. I was collecting parts for a new rig last year, intending to go 3080/5600 when they were released. 3080 was where I expected it to be (ultimately got a 3070 because I couldn't find a 3080, but that's a different story), but actually pulled the trigger on a 3600 in October once the Zen 3 line was announced as I didn't think the $100 price increase ($50 plus $50 x-only launch) was justified for the performance. Plus, I didn't want to wait another month

But I was able to get a 3600 for $175, which I gather isn't exactly doable at this point. And my plan was to just upgrade it at the end of the AM4 life cycle once sales hit (though whether that ever actually happens is now up for debate...).

But that's a really long winded way of saying that, while 15%+ uplift from the 3600 to 5600x is nothing to scoff at, it's a huge price increase that calls the value proposition into question.


boXerrumble
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But I was able to get a 3600 for $175, which I gather isn't exactly doable at this point. And my plan was to just upgrade it at the end of the AM4 life cycle once sales hit (though whether that ever actually happens is now up for debate...).

But that's a really long winded way of saying that, while 15%+ uplift from the 3600 to 5600x is nothing to scoff at, it's a huge price increase that calls the value proposition into question.


Thats exactly what I did. I got a 3600 for $175 in August. Then I snagged a 5600x at retail $299 in December.

Edit: For my case, the 5600x having lower thermals helped a lot in my ITX build, plus the ability to even lower them more with PBO2/Curve Optimizer while not losing any performance.
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Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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re: New Computer build
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Thats exactly what I did. I got a 3600 for $175 in August. Then I snagged a 5600x at retail $299 in December.

Edit: For my case, the 5600x having lower thermals helped a lot in my ITX build, plus the ability to even lower them more with PBO2/Curve Optimizer while not losing any performance.


Now that I bought the 3600, I doubt I'll ever buy a 5600x. My current plan is to wait a bit, and then buy as much as a future proofed cpu as I can (probably a 5900x, unless there is a refresh) and then ride that cpu until I need to completely upgrade from the AM4 platform. Which, because of the type of gaming I do, shouldn't be for another 5-7 years, as long as I continue upgrading my gpu every couple of years.


boXerrumble
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re: New Computer build
I gave my 3600 to my buddy trying to build a gaming PC right now

I'm in the same boat you are. Gonna keep the 5600x, until it starts to show its age; then Ill try to grab a 5800x/5900x 65 W OEM version or just upgrade to the new platform.

I got a 2070 Super card right now with a 1080p 144Hz Monitor. Planning on keeping both for another few years because I don't game much.


Joshjrn
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Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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re: New Computer build
3070FE with a 3440x1440 144Hz Ultrawide. I does the gaming


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skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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re: New Computer build
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What's the budget?

Is he aware of the scarcity and markup on cpu/gpu's ?

Now is a good time to sit back and watch the retail market and NOT buy anything. Wait 6-12 months and see if the supply catches up. Crypto miners are buying up everything they can find at 2x retail on new and used markets.


I agree - only way I've seen to get GPUs at something even remotely resembling reasonable is in pre-built PCs. My 580, that I bought for a couple hundred 2 years ago, is going for about $1000 on Amazon. It's absolutely absurd.


bluebarracuda
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2011
16160 posts

re: New Computer build
The rx 480/580 4gb might be the best bang for buck card to buy right now since you can get them under $300


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