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NETGEAR Orbi Mesh WiFi 6 System (RBK852) On Sale

Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5199 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:43 am
On sale on amazon for $577 (regularly $699). I just ordered one.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 11:57 am to
Still high as giraffe pussy.



I couldn't imagine spending that much knowing that when I need to replace, expand, or upgrade then I'm on the hook for another chunk of change.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5199 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 1:49 pm to
I don't upgrade my router enough for this to be concern to me. This is my first upgrade in I don't know how many years, and it sounds like this will be more than enough router for my needs for years to come (based on what I've read). But to each their own. I was just putting it out there in case anyone was considering getting one.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1528 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:23 pm to
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Korkstand


I almost responded to initial post that may as well go with Ubiquiti but didn't want to come across as a fanboy...i recommend that to any of my friends that as for my 2 cents
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:44 pm to
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I don't upgrade my router enough for this to be concern to me.
That's why I rolled replace/expand/upgrade into one. Basically any modification to the setup will be expensive, whether you're upgrading or if a unit goes out or whatever.
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This is my first upgrade in I don't know how many years, and it sounds like this will be more than enough router for my needs for years to come (based on what I've read).
It will definitely be fast with good coverage, no doubt about it. And most likely it will last for years and you'll get your money's worth out of it.
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But to each their own.
Yeah everyone has their own prefs, certainly not everyone would make the same choices as me. I didn't mean it to be rude if it came across that way, just saying personally for me these things at $699 they're going in dry, and at $577 they just spit on it first.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 2:57 pm to
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I almost responded to initial post that may as well go with Ubiquiti but didn't want to come across as a fanboy..
I have that problem sometimes too.


And BTW Ubiquiti has their own set of issues, especially right now with the security concerns on top, but they're not unique here. There's no such thing as a perfect company or product, but so far nothing comes close to Ubiquiti for me in terms of price/performance/value, features, options, TCO, etc. Also, after initially being hesitant about drilling holes in the ceiling, the wife is fully on board with the look of the access points, mostly because they are hardly noticeable up there. Better than having giant air fresheners sitting on shelves or whatever.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51994 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 4:43 pm to
i purchased the $299 set and i'm extremely happy with it.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67595 posts
Posted on 3/31/21 at 5:19 pm to
Ya I got the 752 for $300 as well last year, such a damn beast. Satellite reaches to my pool and out past it to my firepit in the backyard full bars it's glorious.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 5:21 pm
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1528 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 4:57 pm to
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I have that problem sometimes too.


And BTW Ubiquiti has their own set of issues, especially right now with the security concerns on top, but they're not unique here. There's no such thing as a perfect company or product, but so far nothing comes close to Ubiquiti for me in terms of price/performance/value, features, options, TCO, etc. Also, after initially being hesitant about drilling holes in the ceiling, the wife is fully on board with the look of the access points, mostly because they are hardly noticeable up there. Better than having giant air fresheners sitting on shelves or whatever.


Totally understandable! I really think it's the best out there if you want enterprise-level and performance for home or SMB. I like how the AP semi-serves as a nightlight for the living room.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9726 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:50 pm to
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Ya I got the 752 for $300 as well last year, such a damn beast. Satellite reaches to my pool and out past it to my firepit in the backyard full bars it's glorious.


I’m debating on getting the 753 (3 piece version) from Costco for $429. Still seems like a lot but should be a beast system . It’s a slight downgrade from the 852/853 but not that much
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25664 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 11:31 am to
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I’m debating on getting the 753 (3 piece version) from Costco for $429. Still seems like a lot but should be a beast system . It’s a slight downgrade from the 852/853 but not that much


The 753 with a router and two satellites for $429 may not have as much bandwidth, but it will cover 1 1/2 times more territory. I have the 752 and it covers my whole house and backyard, as well. It's fantastic.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48750 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:31 pm to
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I’m debating on getting the 753 (3 piece version) from Costco for $429. Still seems like a lot but should be a beast system . It’s a slight downgrade from the 852/853 but not that much
My wife is returning that set to Costco, today. I purchased it again, because a satellite in the first set would not operate correctly. It kept some devices from connecting. As soon as I turned it off, everything connected to one of the two other devices.

However, I may not keep the new set, again because the second satellite. Nothing will connect to it. Not even if only a few feet away.

I might end up with a different solution. Will keep this thread advised.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29000 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 1:56 pm to
So what follows is my reasonably educated guess as to why some people have trouble with Orbi and some other mesh systems.


From what I've read, Orbi in particular turns the power levels *way* up. The result is your client devices show a strong signal at long range, but there are a couple problems with this.

The first problem is that networking is a two-way street, so if the client device isn't powerful enough to talk back, then that strong signal can be wasted. This might not be a big problem if a lot of your usage is asymmetric (like streaming video), but it can be noticeable and annoying when there's a lot of back and forth like video calls or even web browsing.

The second problem is the client device decides which access point it wants to connect to, so if you have multiple very powerful units shouting over each other, different clients will handle that differently and some don't do it well at all. Most of the mesh systems claim to be smart about this and try to "suggest" to clients that they should move to a different AP, but that can cause problems with some clients too.

What it boils down to is the wifi experience is better when you have more lower powered access points rather than fewer high powered ones.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5199 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 12:35 pm to
Got my Orbi in, figured out how to get it set up with my ATT internet gateway (had to put it in pass through mode), and I am very pleased. I get full coverage in every inch of my house and yard (old WiFi dropped in furthest corners of my house) and it’s blazing fast with 500-600 Mbps speeds. My old system was lucky to average around 60-80 Mbps. I know it was expensive, but I’m happy and have WiFi coverage and speeds that should last me another decade.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25664 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 1:14 pm to
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What it boils down to is the wifi experience is better when you have more lower powered access points rather than fewer high powered ones.


Sounds like the 3 piece Orbi may be quirky. I have a two piece and couldn't be happier. I still question why some devices hook up the the router and not the satellite, or vice-versa, because obviously, in my mind the device is closer to the wifi that it is not hooked up to. But it's really no big deal since ce it's a difference of 350 mbps vs 250 mbps. Still way more than needed for a laptop.

You're right, though, the Orbi volume is high, so the signal is very strong, even 100+ feet and a few walls away. I think a router and a satellite are enough for most homes with the Orbis.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11951 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 5:10 pm to
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i purchased the $299 set and i'm extremely happy with it.


My $250 X20 set covers from the backyard to the street and I am getting 400mbs plus in most of the house. I am ignorant if there is better, but what I went from its amazeballs.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48750 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 8:10 am to
On my second set of the Orbi system from Costco. Same problem. Everything works great on the main router and satellite 1. The problem is Satellite 2 blocks some devices from connecting. Thinking I will return. Save myself the extra dollars and just get a 1 satellite system or try a different system altogether.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3573 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
6303 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 3:41 pm to
I have Asus AiMesh products and they seem to be cheaper entry levels than Netgear. I have owned both Netgear and Asus products and can't really find a major quality difference.
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
2072 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 4:35 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/5/21 at 4:37 pm
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