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Is there any human within the Milky Way that can explain the AT&T 'Next' plan?

Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:13 pm
Posted by heypaul
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:13 pm
If I've been made to convert to their 'Next' plan, why can't I get a new phone when ever I want to?














































Ready Go.

***Disclaimer: You do not get points for pointing out the fact that I ended my sentence with a preposition.
This post was edited on 11/5/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
19109 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:17 am to
You can get a phone whenever you want to. You have to pay full price. They're not subsidizing anymore.
Posted by cave canem
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:44 am to
It is possibly the most simple plan on earth.

you pay x amount for phone service
you pay y amount if you finance a phone

X+Y= total bill

You can get a new phone ant day you wish, AT&T just is not going to finance a new one for you if you have not paid for the old one yet.

For folks that keep phones for a while this is a great deal, If you were upgrading as soon as you could before the payments remain about the same in total.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:06 am to
It all comes down to one word --












































Vasoline.
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
3437 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:30 am to
Let me help you answer the question yourself



If you wanted a new phone 1 year into a 2 year agreement, what did you do?












You had to pay off the first 2 year agreement and then start another one. What is the difference?
Posted by knowingabyss
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:12 am to
I have no idea why this is so difficult for our customers to understand, it's amazing how frustrated some often get about it too.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62437 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:02 am to
Next is a "Buy your phone" plan, what came before was a "Lease your phone" plan. They used to charge more for the phone service because your phone wasn't actually $199, the flagship phones have always cost $650+, but the full cost was hidden behind the lease structure of the wireless plans. T-Mobile and Sprint put pressure on AT&T and Verizon to lower rates and the only way they could do it was to take the hidden cost of the phone out of the monthly bill. That's what Next is, a cheaper monthly phone bill but the cost of the phone is not hidden from you and many people get sticker shock because they actually thought their phones cost $199, but that was never true.

You are not getting screwed more by moving to Next, in fact they are screwing some people less because the way things were on the old plans anyone that didn't upgrade every 2 years was essentially continuing to make lease payments on a phone that had already been paid off.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 8:14 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:54 am to
quote:

explain the AT&T 'Next' plan?


Step 1: Bend over.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84195 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:09 am to
I am a little over a year into my Next plan which is something like a 30 month deal. Right now I can pay $259.61 to become eligible for an upgrade, but must turn in my phone. Or, I can pay $379.32 to become upgrade eligible and own this phone.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70902 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:00 am to
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For folks that keep phones for a while this is a great deal, If you were upgrading as soon as you could before the payments remain about the same in total.


I have a theory that phone companies send out updates when a phone is close to two years old to mess it up. Sounds crazy but my phone was great until this month. Just turned two and now it freezes and locks up constantly.

Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11811 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:12 am to
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You have to pay full price. They're not subsidizing anymore.

Yup. Wife spilled water on her 6. Contract wasn't up until 5/27/17. Couldn't even do a next plan. Had to pay $822 yesterday. That sucked.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:25 am to
quote:

I have no idea why this is so difficult for our customers to understand
Really? 'No idea'?


Do you think it might be because for years AT&T (and others) intentionally obfuscated what exactly their monthly bills were paying for?
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85083 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:34 am to
I'm not sure, but I was paying $190 with my old plan and I was dreading updating because I just assumed my monthly bill would be about $250/month with the NEXT plan with the phone "financing"

but somehow my bill went down to $140/month and now I have more data

I'm pretty happy
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65267 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:37 am to
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I have no idea why this is so difficult for our customers to understand, it's amazing how frustrated some often get about it too.


Because just when we figure out one bill they frick with it and change it to the most complicated shite on earth. I can figure out how to read surgical manuals but I can't figure out a fricking AT&T bill to save my life.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 11:42 am to
quote:

I have a theory that phone companies send out updates when a phone is close to two years old to mess it up. Sounds crazy but my phone was great until this month. Just turned two and now it freezes and locks up constantly.
99.999% of the time I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it feels like almost exactly at the 1 year mark of the last 5-7 phones I've owned, my phone goes to shite.

Tinfoil hat is on!!!
Posted by knowingabyss
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Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 12:38 pm to
If a bill changes, something was added or a promotion fell off most likely. You'd be surprised how easily we can save you money if instead of bitching and moaning like children, you just came in and asked us to do a rate plan analysis. I saved one family over 100 bucks a month on their phone bills by doing so last week.

Also, look and see who else is an authorized user on your account because plenty of times people come in, add something on and don't tell the other parties involved.

I know plenty of people like to think we're this big bad corporation who just wants to bend you over and frick you but we actually do like to help out however we can. shite, we get in trouble if we let people walk away without telling them about different savings you can take advantage of.

1. Don't be late on your bills
2. Understand different promotions we have and when they end
3. Return your equipment on time
4. Know your credit before signing up
5. Call 611 from home and they'll go over your bill with you and how they can save you money

Believe it or not, we're human too and we understand life happens and you have other things to pay for. The people you interact with at the store don't get your money in our accounts so we really don't go out of our way about "ripping you off." I've worked retail for 10 years now and it's amazing how mad people get about their bills phones despite us explaining it to you.

And for the love of god, please get insurance. It's almost always your cheapest option and even if you're the type of person who "never drops their phone" at least look into it, it's $10 a month.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

instead of bitching and moaning like children, you just came in and asked us to do a rate plan analysis
You say the billing isn't complicated, but in order to get a good deal you have to do a Rate Plan Analysis?!
quote:

I saved one family over 100 bucks a month on their phone bills by doing so last week.
Here's the thing... AT&T knows everyone's usage patterns, and AT&T knows their own rate plans. How long did AT&T sit back and knowingly let that family get fricked out of $100 extra each month?
quote:

I know plenty of people like to think we're this big bad corporation who just wants to bend you over and frick you but we actually do like to help out however we can.
If that were true, AT&T would have sent a text to that family above long ago to let them know they could be saving money. And it's the billing complexities that make it difficult for customers to know if they could be paying less (see your rate plan analysis above).
quote:

I've worked retail for 10 years now and it's amazing how mad people get about their bills phones despite us explaining it to you.
If I were that family above and just found out I've been overpaying by $100 every month, I would be one pissed off motherfricker. Do you ever put yourself in the customer's shoes, or do you only see it from your perspective?

Just the fact that a phone bill requires an explanation is enough to raise my blood pressure.
quote:

And for the love of god, please get insurance. It's almost always your cheapest option and even if you're the type of person who "never drops their phone" at least look into it, it's $10 a month.
If insurance was good for the customer in the long run, it wouldn't be offered.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
74935 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:45 pm to
I'd have to imagine ATT would not be pumped about one of their employees saying potential and current customers are bitching and moaning like children.
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:21 pm to
Please, I'm hardly the first person to say customers cry and moan. It's true, plain and simple. Most of the times it's for things they messed up and expect us to fix. I enjoy helping people too fwiw, but that doesn't change the fact that a good number of customers come in our doors up here and whine because they can't get a free phone while theirs is broken or we can't give them half off their bill for being "long time customers".

Hell, I had a grown arse man kick our display over because he couldn't trade in his iPhone 6s Plus (that he got for free via a promotion btw) towards a new iPhone 7 until January.
Posted by knowingabyss
Vermont
Member since Aug 2016
2700 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:24 pm to
So we're supposed to monitor every single persons account and look for this? The moment we saw it, we changed it. She had a plan that was older for her family, once I took a look at it, boom, done. In the end, she still chose that account for her family, not us.

Billing and Rate plan are two different things. Above what I just mentioned is a rate plan analysis that I did without even asking the customer, they came in for something else and I saw that. As for billing, know and understand everything you have with us and also make sure you know when a promotion ends because 99% of the time, that's what it is.

Again, the money you spend doesn't go into our pockets so we don't have a reason to bend you guys over like so many think.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 3:27 pm
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