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re: Is OLED really that much better than QLED? needing a TV for man cave for under 2,000.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:55 pm to TT9
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:55 pm to TT9
There are only 3-4 companies that make the screens so u are getting the same screen no matter what brand. They last forever now. I did this a few years ago and really liked the Sony Bravia and the Samsungs as the just seem to be best overall. That’s what the Best Buy guy said too. I went with Sony because my wife will not let me add speakers anymore and it had best sound quality. Really look at the features etc, and the distance and angle are going to watch from.
My understanding was that there wasn’t really much if any difference from straight on but if you are viewing from side angles etc like for football in a man cave etc the QLED was a little bit better. The Best Buy guys seemed to imply it’s not worth the difference but again that was years ago. You can buy an 80 inch for under 2k now. TV are one of few things that keep getting better and big but cheaper too.
Look at Best Buy, but look around. I think I ended up getting one there and one at Costco.
My understanding was that there wasn’t really much if any difference from straight on but if you are viewing from side angles etc like for football in a man cave etc the QLED was a little bit better. The Best Buy guys seemed to imply it’s not worth the difference but again that was years ago. You can buy an 80 inch for under 2k now. TV are one of few things that keep getting better and big but cheaper too.
Look at Best Buy, but look around. I think I ended up getting one there and one at Costco.
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:15 pm to TT9
Then I'd push your budget limits as much as possible. You'll appreciate it down the road when it takes longer for technology to leave you behind.
I actually just got back from returning something at Best Buy. Went check out the TV's with you in mind.
In the 75" class, the Samsung QN90D and the Sony Bravia 7 XR70 are both 2,199 and they looked amazing compared to the screens around them, outside of the Samsung 8k.
I honestly thought the XR70 was an OLED screen the whole time I was watching it, until a bright scene came up and made it obvious.
I actually just got back from returning something at Best Buy. Went check out the TV's with you in mind.
In the 75" class, the Samsung QN90D and the Sony Bravia 7 XR70 are both 2,199 and they looked amazing compared to the screens around them, outside of the Samsung 8k.
I honestly thought the XR70 was an OLED screen the whole time I was watching it, until a bright scene came up and made it obvious.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:13 pm to TheBoo
quote:yes, thank you, I'm definitely gonna go in person and check them out and see which one I like. I'm in the learning stages.
Then I'd push your budget limits as much as possible. You'll appreciate it down the road when it takes longer for technology to leave you behind.
I actually just got back from returning something at Best Buy. Went check out the TV's with you in mind.
In the 75" class, the Samsung QN90D and the Sony Bravia 7 XR70 are both 2,199 and they looked amazing compared to the screens around them, outside of the Samsung 8k.
I honestly thought the XR70 was an OLED screen the whole time I was watching it, until a bright scene came up and made it obvious.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:23 pm to TT9
I bought a 65 inch Hisense Q8N and couldn’t be happier. Research the new Hisense and TCL models. Save a ton of money on a great tv that most reviewers say is “near” oled. Never had an oled, but love my Hisense.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:27 pm to lostinbr
My last 2 monitors were $1,200 34 Ultrawide.
Now I have an OLED Ultrawide. Only cost me $800 and the picture isn't just a little better. It is fracking amazing. So much better, I am more than happy to buy another one in a couple of years if burn-in is true.
I do run the utility to prevent burn-in when I turn the monitor off.
My next TV will be an OLED. Beautiful picture with amazing colors.
Now I have an OLED Ultrawide. Only cost me $800 and the picture isn't just a little better. It is fracking amazing. So much better, I am more than happy to buy another one in a couple of years if burn-in is true.
I do run the utility to prevent burn-in when I turn the monitor off.
My next TV will be an OLED. Beautiful picture with amazing colors.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:22 pm to UltimateHog
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Gotta be careful with the 5 year old way of thinking that LG was the best then means they still are now, just not the case.
Competing in the same price range, yes. But if cost is not an issue, the G4 wipes everything on the market except for the A95L.
Even though the S90D is the best in its class, it has an insanely aggressive ABL and is an absolute deal breaker for me.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:45 pm to Carson123987
You game so the C4 is dead to you for how bad the game mode dims. It's awful. I don't console game so I wouldn't mind but I know you do and it's a serious issue with the C4 dimming game mode significantly.
The G4 still lacks color, the MLA panel just increases brightness it doesn't do anything for colors so like the C4 it just doesn't look as good to the eyes because it's lacking that extra punch quantum dots provides with more color volume, wider color gamut etc. The absurd price of those things isn't even remotely worth it. Same with the top MiniLED the Sony Bravia 9 that costs an insane $3,499 for the 75", just ridiculously not worth.
The G4 still lacks color, the MLA panel just increases brightness it doesn't do anything for colors so like the C4 it just doesn't look as good to the eyes because it's lacking that extra punch quantum dots provides with more color volume, wider color gamut etc. The absurd price of those things isn't even remotely worth it. Same with the top MiniLED the Sony Bravia 9 that costs an insane $3,499 for the 75", just ridiculously not worth.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:59 pm to UltimateHog
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You game so the C4 is dead to you for how bad the game mode dims. It's awful. I don't console game so I wouldn't mind but I know you do and it's a serious issue with the C4 dimming game mode significantly.
I have never noticed my C3 dim a single time
Not once. I just finished FFVII Rebirth which was prime for that dimmer to kick and it was never noticeable. Played at my buddy's house a month ago on his S90D and I did notice it 3-4x however. Maybe the C4 is worse about it 
My dual AW3225QFs on my PC are goated though quote:
The G4 still lacks color, the MLA panel just increases brightness it doesn't do anything for colors so like the C4 it just doesn't look as good to the eyes because it's lacking that extra punch quantum dots provides with more color volume, wider color gamut etc. The absurd price of those things isn't even remotely worth it. Same with the top MiniLED the Sony Bravia 9 that costs an insane $3,499 for the 75", just ridiculously not worth.
Yeah none of those TVs are worth it, the ones half the price are plenty good. I just tell people if they want blacks, get the OLED, if they want brightness get the QLED
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:06 pm to Carson123987
Yeah I think it's a C4 issue, G4 doesn't do it or much at all either.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 6:31 am to UltimateHog
It is because the LGs were still having massive burn-in issues with gamers. Gaming is apparently much more stressful than casual use for some reason.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:38 am to notsince98
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It is because the LGs were still having massive burn-in issues with gamers. Gaming is apparently much more stressful than casual use for some reason.
It’s a bigger problem with games because they usually have screen elements that don’t move/change like the HUD or even menus (for example if someone often pauses the game and walks away).
You don’t run into as many static elements when you’re watching TV/movies. The closest thing would be something like a chyron on a news channel, but even that will be less pronounced (and will change more often) than HUD elements in a game. Another potential source is the main menu for a streaming box/app/etc. but those usually have pretty aggressive screen saver timers for that reason.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:14 am to lostinbr
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It’s a bigger problem with games because they usually have screen elements that don’t move/change like the HUD or even menus (for example if someone often pauses the game and walks away).
You don’t run into as many static elements when you’re watching TV/movies. The closest thing would be something like a chyron on a news channel, but even that will be less pronounced (and will change more often) than HUD elements in a game. Another potential source is the main menu for a streaming box/app/etc. but those usually have pretty aggressive screen saver timers for that reason.
I have all OLEDs in my house (CX, C3, AW3225QF monitors) and would classify myself as a "heavy" user with games, desktop work, etc. No burn-in on any of my units yet, even the 5-year old CX. They have a lot of features built in to help mitigate it nowadays
Posted on 1/10/25 at 10:17 am to Carson123987
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Even though the S90D is the best in its class, it has an insanely aggressive ABL and is an absolute deal breaker for me.
It's aggressive for SDR (which matters far less), HDR it is the exact same as the C3 at 0.101 ABL. So any time you see aggressive ABL and think it's a dealbreaker watching HDR content on your C3 just know it's the exact same as the S90D.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/10/25 at 10:54 am to UltimateHog
Yeah I've seen the values on rtings and know they're technically the same. I guess it's just the smoothness with which its executed. The S90D was like flipping a switch and very jarring, which I've never observed on my LGs. We tested it going from shadowy areas to bright ones in a game and were like "oh there it is again." So even though the dimming values are identical, maybe LG has something that leads to a more gradual and less jarring dimming process.
I'm not just trying to dig on Samsung btw, these 2 LGs are the first non-Samsung TVs I've bought in my life. It's really getting down to the gnat's arse at this point when choosing between top tier TVs
I'm not just trying to dig on Samsung btw, these 2 LGs are the first non-Samsung TVs I've bought in my life. It's really getting down to the gnat's arse at this point when choosing between top tier TVs
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:03 am to Carson123987
May be the large brightness difference in game mode making it look more jarring because the LG is quite a bit dimmer making it less noticeable. They may have the same ABL but applying that to a 1,200 nit screen versus 800 nits the brighter panel is going to be more noticeable.
ABL can also vary slightly panel to panel as well.
ABL can also vary slightly panel to panel as well.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:05 am to UltimateHog
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May be the large brightness difference in game mode making it look more jarring because the LG is quite a bit dimmer making it less noticeable
Very true
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:33 am to Carson123987
Yeah like I said earlier, I think it’s overstated from what I’ve read. It kept me from buying an OLED a few years ago but after doing more research I get the feeling most of the issues are a combination of early OLED designs and people abusing the displays without taking any precautions.
Wasn’t necessarily implying that it’s still a massive issue, just explaining why it’s a bigger concern with gaming.
Wasn’t necessarily implying that it’s still a massive issue, just explaining why it’s a bigger concern with gaming.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:26 pm to TT9
Unfortunately, TVs all just went back up in price after the Christmas season, but should go back down as we get closer to Super Bowl.
And, go for a Mini LED tv w/ Local Dimming. When on sale you can probably get an 85” Hisense u8n for well under $2k. I have the 75” version and it’s phenomenal.
My only regret is my wall maxing out @ the 75” model. The bigger the better!
And, go for a Mini LED tv w/ Local Dimming. When on sale you can probably get an 85” Hisense u8n for well under $2k. I have the 75” version and it’s phenomenal.
My only regret is my wall maxing out @ the 75” model. The bigger the better!
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:51 am to TT9
None of it really matters. It’s been proven the human eye can’t really distinguish the difference on 99% of what you watch.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 7:52 am
Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:19 pm to TT9
Fixing to pull the trigger on something this coming week. Would like to have it by next weekend. Just have a 1080p 65 currently.
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