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Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:10 pm
Posted by proger
Member since Nov 2007
718 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:10 pm
Is there a difference between the cheap or expensive cables? Just purchased a Samsung 4k and the Best Buy salesman tried to sell me an $80 monster cable. I stuck with the $10 Rocket Fish
Posted by Hogkiller10
LP
Member since Jan 2010
1529 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:22 pm to
Smart move. No difference
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77952 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:39 pm to
I splurged this time and got the 10ft high speed 18mbps HDMI cables from monoprice instead of the 10mbps ones just because I'm pushing 4K and want to ensure no bottlenecks.

I paid $4.69 per cable instead of $3.99
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 6:41 pm
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16305 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:49 pm to
More expensive obviously means better.

I buy all mine from Monoprice. I wonder how many mouth breathers they get to buy the super expensive cables.
Posted by Rhames
Member since Apr 2013
1138 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 6:58 pm to
That's what best buy makes money on. Mark up from crap like that.


All you need is an hdmi 2.0 I believe. Pretty cheap on amazon
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

All you need is an hdmi 2.0 I believe. Pretty cheap on amazon


Cables aren't described that way. For the proper terminology, see:

LINK

And yeah, $4 Monoprice cables (from 2008, even) are good enough, and there's nothing above "good enough".
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:23 pm to
AmazonBasics High-Speed HDMI Cable - 6 Feet (Latest Standard)

$5.49

Works great. Lasts a long time.

#1 Best Seller

HDMI A Male to A Male Cable: Supports Ethernet, 3D, 4K video and Audio Return Channel (ARC)
• Connects Blu-ray players, Fire TV, Apple TV, PS4, PS3, XBox one, Xbox 360, computers and other HDMI-enabled devices to TVs, displays, A/V receivers and more
• Cable allows you to share an Internet connection among multiple devices without the need for a separate Ethernet cable
• Meets the latest HDMI standards (4K Video at 60 Hz, 2160p, 48 bit/px color depth) that supports bandwidth up to 18Gbps and backwards compatible with earlier versions
• Cable Length: 6 feet (1.8 meters); Backed by AmazonBasics Lifetime warranty
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10014 posts
Posted on 8/21/16 at 10:27 pm to
I believe I read somewhere once that due to the nature of HDMI cables, they all transmit a signal the same way. Therefore any cable that works is as good as any other cable, regardless of price.

Is that accurate?

ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 8/21/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:41 am to
quote:

#1 Best Seller

HDMI A Male to A Male Cable: Supports Ethernet, 3D, 4K video and Audio Return Channel (ARC)
• Connects Blu-ray players, Fire TV, Apple TV, PS4, PS3, XBox one, Xbox 360, computers and other HDMI-enabled devices to TVs, displays, A/V receivers and more
• Cable allows you to share an Internet connection among multiple devices without the need for a separate Ethernet cable
• Meets the latest HDMI standards (4K Video at 60 Hz, 2160p, 48 bit/px color depth) that supports bandwidth up to 18Gbps and backwards compatible with earlier versions
• Cable Length: 6 feet (1.8 meters); Backed by AmazonBasics Lifetime warranty


IOW, per the link I posted, it's a High Speed cable with Ethernet, the same as my 2008 Monoprice jobs except for the Ethernet. No one should be confused by the listing of all the specs it supports.

ETA: Oops, I see there's now a "Premium High Speed HDMI Cable" label. This is less than a year old. Before, they were saying High Speed cables support all the current standards, including everything Premium supports. I suspect that's still true. Presser here:

LINK

quote:

That is why we are launching this proactive program to give consumers absolute peace-of-mind,” said Jeff Park, HDMI Licensing, LLC’s Technology Evangelist.


bullshite translator: Never let an opportunity to create new licensing revenue go to waste.

In any case, Monoprice has Premium 6' for $4.49, so get that.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 1:55 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27678 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 7:00 am to
I work in the AV business from the corporate side, so i manage the top AV businesses in the state.

all my guys buy from monoprice and big distributors in huge bulk on all their cables. they pay no more than $3 per HDMI.


they have all told me it makes no difference whatsoever, digital is digital.

they do however tell customers its the "high end" cables and some charge as much as $100 bucks for them, but they are literally $3 a piece. lol

best buy and those places make all their money on accessories.



Your video source(DIRECTV, Netflix, etc) and TV will determine your picture quality, not the type of HDMI cable.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35113 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Cables aren't described that way. For the proper terminology, see:


Lots of info on that site you link about HDMI 2.0


The real fun is going to be all the HDCP 2.2 issues that will arise.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18289 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:38 am to
quote:

HDCP


biggest piece of shite I have ever run across, frick the whole DRM crap
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:20 am to
quote:

I believe I read somewhere once that due to the nature of HDMI cables, they all transmit a signal the same way. Therefore any cable that works is as good as any other cable, regardless of price.

Is that accurate?


The way I describe it to non-tech people is that HDMI cables transit ones and zeros. No cable can make a 1 look better than another cable.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77943 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:50 am to
You definitely need the platinum diamond cables for maximum signal.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:58 am to
Got some new cheap cables from Amazon last week. Saved a ton over walmart prices
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77943 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:05 am to
Speaker cables are the same way. Monster Cable vs Coat Hangers
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10014 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:10 am to
Always buy cables online vs. brick and mortar stores. You will save a ton of money.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77952 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

The way I describe it to non-tech people is that HDMI cables transit ones and zeros. No cable can make a 1 look better than another cable.


not altogether true..4K requires HDMI with more throughput but having said that, those cables are $4 at monoprice so if you are having trouble with an older HDMI cable its not expensive to see if thats the problem.

remember HDMI has evolved over the years..we're up to HDMI 2.2 and some of the older cables will literally not pass 4K through as well as faster ones.

also some of the newer ones do 'arcing' which passes audio back through the cable and older HDMI cables cant handle that.

the whole ethernet-option is a different story and i'm not sure thats ever going to take off.


Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

also some of the newer ones do 'arcing' which passes audio back through the cable and older HDMI cables cant handle that.



LINK

quote:

All HDMI cables will support Audio Return Channel functionality when connected to Audio Return Channel-enabled devices.


Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38945 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:38 pm to
Bluejeanscable.com is where I buy all of my cables/interconnects from, they're a great company.
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